Tyres

John
Give me a hard question.
If I got anywhere near 100000k let alone 130000 out of my BFG's I would not look at another tyre.
Can't help with Toyo, sorry
Ross

G'day John,

just by coincidence I posted a thread just before yours on Toyo tyres.

I've had a set of Toyo Open Country M/Ts on our 80 series Land Cruiser for tow and a half years. We've travelled over 97,000 kms in that time and I can't fault the tyres. We've had two flats and both were stakings, one on road with a piece of timber and one off track in burnt out country.
We've travelled a bit over half on bitumen, often towing a work trailer. We've travelled many thousands of kilometres on most of the worst tracks and roads in Australia.

I've rotated the six tyres when needed and kept and eye pressures. When travelling our vehicle is heavily loaded for remote travel.
The tyres aren't noisy, handle well and drive well even in wet weather.

My only decision is to go to the A/T2 or get another set of M/Ts.
Pricewise, I originally paid $305 each for the M/Ts. I recently got a price from the same Tyrepower shop (with new owners) and the price had increased $100 a tyre. I got a quote from a local independent tyre shop and he can fit the M/T tyres for $305 each and the A/Ts for $290 each. The independent's price for BFG KO2s is $303 each and KM2s at $311 each, so price for me isn't much of an issue when compaing the two brands.

I hope this helps you.

Steve

One Hundred and Thirty Eight Thousand Kilometres?

Are you sure that you got the "zeroes" right?

I have just got 80000ks out of a set of Cooper AT3. When I asked my tyre man to suggest something else, his response was " I'm always reluctant to suggest anything else when people are happy with what they have"

130000 does seem incredable; may be driving around the local sports oval :-)

138,000km?

No dirt I guess?

Sob Sob,
I really want to know where I am going wrong.
I just replaced a set of Bridgestones 697 Duelers around 35,000, so personally I could not recommend them to you.

I have Toyo AT2 on the rear now but have only done approx. 3,000 k's so far, too early to comment.
If I got 45 to 50,000 I would be happy.

To my way of thinking a set of tyres is 4, to some people it is 6, others could have 4 spares.

It could make a bit of difference to the kilometres you can get out of a set.

Say I get 60,000 out of a set of 4 tyres, that's 15,000 per tyre, if someone else has a set of 6 tyres, the math than turns that into 90,000 out of a set.

Question, how many tyres is there in a set.

Cheers

I use Toyo M55, and have used them extensively off-road/off-track in desert country and extremely pleased with the result.

As for tyre longevity, I suspect that like anything there will be outlier's in terms of service, 138K would seem extreme though, but on that basis I would question why you would change anything.

Cheers, Baz - The landy

A few years back I got nearly 130k out of a set of Uniroyal Laredos. You can't buy them anymore in Australia, which makes sense....a company will go broke selling tyres that don't wear out. The rubber in them was very hard, deadly on wet roads.

On tirerack.com 12 users report more than 80,000 kms with the BFG T/As.

What the OP is really saying is, he got 92000km out of a set of 4. Still good value though. It looks like I will get about the same from some Hankooks I have fitted.

Col

HI everyone, I had cooper A/T did 85,000 mostly bituemen and sand nice and quiet but not great in the wet. Now have bridgestone duellers A/T a bit noisier but better in the wet and they have done 16,000 and still look new , I have done a lot of gravel driving this year and they are annoying how stones lodge in the tread and when you get back on the tar sometimes they flick up .

I'm currently up to around 115,000 on my twin cab patrol with Kumho KL78 A/T was going to replace them before last xmas the tread depth was fine just a bit slippery in the wet like an empty tray back drives like but we didn't get a decent wet season so there still on. Have only done a bit of gravel driving and some beach work.

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There is some confusion in the expressions above regarding the km performance of a 'set' of tyres. Some get it right, others don't. Because of that, comparisons are worthless. 'Alby', 'Blue M' and 'D-MaxerWA' have already mentioned this although the OP has yet to advise just how many tyres were in the set that he used to achieve "138,000km".

To determine how many km each tyre has done it is necessary to divide the vehicle km by the number of tyres in use, say 5 or 6 and multiply by 4 (the number of tyres on the road) Of course, if the spare(s) are not being used then no factoring is necessary.

As an example, using the numbers from the OP's post above, an expressed performance of 138,000km with 5 tyres rotated is 138,000 divided by 5 and multiplied by 4 which equals 19,040km performance for each tyre. With 6 tyres in use it would be only 92,000km per tyre.

If this factoring is not applied then the expression of performance using vehicle km is meaningless. In the case of the OP, "john m85" unless he advises just how many tyres were used, then his stated performance of 138,000km is rather meaningless.

I am running AT 2's great tyre zero issues also had then on my prev patrol as well they perform very well
only downside is they are a lot heavier than a lot of other tyres out there due to there true lt construction
check out American tyre reviews you will get some great insight into AT tyres performance