Thursday, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:49
It must be understood that pretty much all the toyota commercials (
well most commercials period) are very poorly sound insulated, and a lot can be done to improve that.
I've considerably improved one of my hiluxes using methods I know from the sound business.
A lot of the car HIFI guys use loaded sheeting, which is effective, but it's expensive and heavy ...... there are lighter weight adhesive sheetings that work.
what the loaded sheetings are trying to do is increase the weight of the panel, this knocks out a lot of the mid and high transmission.
BUT using un loaded bitumen sheet or body deadner will deaden the sheet metal without adding too much weight or costing too much.
plain undeadened sheet metal ...... and there is a lot of it in the toyota commercials is pretty near transparent and makes a lot of noise when struck with stones, sticks leaves or even raindrops ...... doing pretty much anything to shut it up will be an improvement.
On the utilities the back wall is pretty much intreated inside and out ..... a hell of a lot of noise comes thru it and a lot of your airconditioning cooloness is wasted thu it.
I treated the back wall of my 4wd with standard off the roll 10mm automotive cotton waste, underfelt and light marine carpet. ...... spray glue is your friend ... lay up and trim the underfelt and then lay up the carpet over.
I would not say the difference was dramatic but it did make quite a difference (remember I have 1 vehicle treated and the other not). Yeh I notice it.
you could do this to the roof, pull out the roof lining and cover the whole roof in the underlay ( hell 2 layers) and either carpet over or refit a standard roof lining ...... not only will this shut it up but reduce heat transmission.
If you want to get serious about ya troopie roof, do the same thing but with 25mm or more foam ...... a friend of
mine sells the same foam used in mitsubishi interiour trims in various thicknesses ..... we use it in equipment casses, it is fire retardent and long term durable ( some sheet foams degrade over a few years) ...... a full sheet of foam ( 2m x 1 m) would cover most of a troopie roof.
Using bulk absorbent treatment will not only deaden the panel but will also absorb noise that enters the cabin rather that it just continuing to bounce around.
Inside the doors you realy dont have much option but hard impervious meterial, because toyota doors drain internally ( there is water in the doors at times).
You don't need the heavy expensive loaded materials ...... plain rubber sheet will be an improvement on plain undeadned sheet metal ...... likewise ordinary bitumen sheet ...... anything will help shut up thin tin.
The other thing to do with doors is look at what you are doing with door cards ...... the 2mm masonite, a very thin thickness of foam and a layer of thin vinyl is most of the acoustic insulation of your doors ....... changing to 7mm, 10mm or heavier plywood firmly screwed in place will shut ya doors up quite a bit as
well as giving a better mounting for your speakers.
About those speakers ..... sound goes straight thru those paper cones ..... if ya serious either put some insulation material behind the speakers or don't mount in the doors.
Now to the floor ...... the fastest and most effective thing to shut up the floor is heavy rubber mats ..... the bigger the heavier the better.
another option for vans and troopies is to sheet the load area in plywwod .... at least 12mm or 15mm, then marine carpet over the top ...... let me tell you this shuts vans up a beauty and gives you a nice flat surface to lay on, load or work with.
pretty much everybody I know ..... first thing they do to a new van is sheet the floor.
In cab type utes and in the cab of troopies ...... you have options depending on what you do with it ....... if you do water crossings and get water in the cab, the only reasonable option is heavy rubber mats ...... ..... use the factory mats as a template and get heavy rubber or get rubber mats and cut them up ..... make sure you cover the transmission tunnel and under the seats. ... oh and as far up the fire wall as you can.
If the cab never gets wet ...... pull up ya mats, get rid of that diet under felt and get some of the good 10mm stuff.
All of the toyota cabs are mounted on rubber, and they ride better and quieter with some weight in the cab ...... if you ride alone or are skinny, add some weight to the cab ...... I keep my drag chains, and some of my recovery gear behind the passenger
seat in heavy canvas bags ..... this has proven to improve things, particular when traveling solo.
remember, one measure may not be all the improvement you are looking for.
hope this helps
cheers
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Follow Up By: Whirlwinder - Thursday, Dec 29, 2016 at 19:01
Thursday, Dec 29, 2016 at 19:01
Thanks Bantam for a very detailed and informative reply. So much to digest.
Ian
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