Winching methods???????

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:01
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I was wondering what other owners/users of power winches do to get around the problem of their cable bunching up on one side of the drum when you're winch is connected to a point which is slightly off centre? You cannot simply keep winching in as the amount of cable on one side will grow to such a size that it will foul on the cross-bars (or whatever they're called).
Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:09

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:09
If its on a hill, winch up as much as you can, chock wheels, winch out, have winch assistant, load cable onto drum, when gets the slack out, have winch assistant dissappear, do it all again.

In MUD.. Try ya best to do the above!

As soon as clear of situation, spool it all out and fix it, you may need it again in 1 klms, and if its stuck on the drum, your screwed.

Reminds me I gotta do that tomorrow..

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie- Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:26

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:26
thanks Trucky,
That's what I thought would be necessary, but it seems like a sheetload of extra work......I like the idea mentioned by Ken (see below) as a possible better alternative.
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Reply By: Member - Ken - Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:19

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:19
Roachie

I have never been in a position to experience this

However (always one of those)

When I was in the Birdsville caravan park about 4 weeks ago. I was camped alongside of an 'old bushie' who had a very interesting rig.

Built into the front bar under the winch was a 'hayman reece' type socket.

In it was a matching piece of square tube with a approx 30Deg angle on the end and a captive pulley in the end of the angle.

Now what this 'apparatus' did in effect, was keep the winch rope in front of the winch and assisted in keeping it from fouling as you describe as well as allowing for the rope to pass under neath to a similar one at the back for reverse winching.

All you had to do was slip it out and turn it in the direction you wanted to winch and 'bobs your uncle so to speak'.

The owner said it worked a treat. I can't pass comment on that as I didn't se it in action.

Regards

Ken Robinson

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie- Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:27

Wednesday, Jun 02, 2004 at 23:27
Yeh, thanks Ken......that'll give me some food for thought.
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 15:00

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 15:00
Sounds excellent to me Ken,
I Always wondered what good winches would be if ur nose was pressed up against a wall. I say that without knocking winches guys. Id love to have one myself but to date i havent needed one touch wood!
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Reply By: fozzy - Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 07:37

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 07:37
if in sand/mud can simply steer from side to side to get a more even spool-doesnt always work and sometimes have mind on other things.
if your energetic can take cable further up hill than necessary which cuts down angle of cable
if track is narrow and rutted (like most of time) then as per truckster above)
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie- Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 16:19

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 16:19
Fozzy,
Thanks for that.....I guess my question should have stipulated that I was thinking of situations where the winch vehicle is recovering another one. That means the winch unit is angled off to one side during the entire pull etc.
Thanks mate.
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Reply By: PerthGQ - Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 15:38

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 15:38
Roachie,

The problem is known as excessive fleet angle, which can/should be managed a number of ways, one being similar to the method described below with the dolly sheave out front.

A web-site that might offer some technical info on the subject is:

http://www.jeamar.com/?action=tn&prodID=cfa

Hope this helps...Keith

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie- Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 16:21

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 16:21
Thanks Keith,
I'll look that site up as soon as I get a chance.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie- Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 16:21

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 16:21
Thanks Keith,
I'll look that site up as soon as I get a chance.

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 17:22

Thursday, Jun 03, 2004 at 17:22
Roachie,
To avoid the build up of the cable, turning the steering wheel from side to side as menton early and also the use of a snatch block. The extra cable that whould have to be let out to use the snatch block would mean that the drum would have less cable on it when you start the recovery and hopefully the full length of the cable would not be used. This should mean less of a build up.

Wayne
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