There's no Logic really, just Revenue raising!!.
Submitted: Saturday, Feb 18, 2017 at 19:11
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axle
The rego stickers are a thing of the past , but the boys in Blue can pick up in a flash with the latest technology when you drive by., whether you have current rego and license or not. Which makes me wonder when your pulled over randomly and don't have your license on you whether the seventy dollar fine is a fair thing? By the time they turn their motor off they know everything about you, so if your totally clear in all respects,whats this bloody fine for?.
Cheers Axle.
Reply By: Blown4by - Saturday, Feb 18, 2017 at 23:23
Saturday, Feb 18, 2017 at 23:23
My understanding is that in some States it is a legal requirement to carry your drivers license at all times when driving, although in WA this is not the case. I am not aware that the vehicle license has to be carried as
well but someone may correct me on that. Personally I would not want to leave my vehicle license in the vehicle when it is unattended should a theft of the vehicle compromise my identifying information. As you have said with number plate recognition the currency of the vehicle license can be checked as
well as ownership. The Drivers License can be checked too using the MDL number or name and date of birth and in some States the persons photograph can also be retrieved. The downside is that in many remote areas without mobile phone coverage i.e. no data connection, neither of these systems operate. This may be part of the reason, as
well as for reasons of identity confirmation, why the MDL has to be carried in some States. Most people would want their family to be notified asap should they be incapacitated in an accident or similar. Without some form of positive ID including a photograph, a huge waste of Police time (which we all pay for) could result as
well as a delay in notifying next of kin. Additionally the lack of critical medical information could delay proper treatment and in the case of a death the absence any organ donation information could render useless the possibility of using any vital organs the deceased may have nominated.
In WA (one of the first States to do away with the registration sticker) anyone with a computer can
check if a vehicle license is current by simply entering the plate number. Additionally by entering the MDL number, name and DOB a member of the public can
check the currency of a Drivers License. Not sure what procedures are in place in other jurisdictions.
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Reply By: Rainman WA - Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 00:39
Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 00:39
Last year I went to pick my daughter up in her car as she had been drinking and I was stopped by a single copper for a random breath
test.
He asked me if I had my licence on me, when I said no he asked for my name and who the car was registered to. I gave him my name and told him it was registered to my daughter and he asked if we lived at the same address, which I confirmed.
He then went off to his vehicle and after a minute gave me the thumbs up and off I went. Seems things aren't as backward in WA as everyone imagines.
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 07:25
Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 07:25
With a vehicle they don't care who owns it as long as it is not stolen and registered. When it comes to a person I could just be myself and tell them I an Donald Trump.
If I am pulled up around town (normally an RBT) and I don't have my licence on me, I just tell them my licence number and they have never bothered to
check it. If they did, they would get enough info from the data base to satisfy them I am me and they are them.
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Reply By: Mick O - Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 09:18
Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 09:18
The offence is available but usually it's used to ensure that the person produces their licence at a nominated place by a given date. If you do, the fine is voided. If you don't produce as required, you cop the fine. They do the same thing when your rego plates are worn or dodgy and need to be replaced. Give you the ticket with instructions to get new plates from Vic Roads within x number of days. If you do, fine is cancelled. If you don't ...you're an idiot! Helps ensure compliance.
Your licence has a photo ID. Without that, they don't really know who you are at all. You can tell them you're billy
blogs and they won't know or be able to confirm that unless they have some form of visual or biometric identifier (like your fingerprint). This is why you must carry your licence. It's to prove your identity. If you got hauled up for unregistered vehicle or a traffic offence and don't produce sufficient ID to prove your identity, you'll be sitting down at the cop
shop until you do. They won't give you a fine unless they can positively say who you are.
From my experience, it's also the sort of fine that can be pulled out for smart arses so its wise to be polite to someone who's doing a crappy job anyway ;-)
Cheers
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 09:24
Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 09:24
Carrying your licence seems very logical to me. Having photo ID ensures that you are the person you say you are, and certainly helps on those occasions where you can't speak due to incapacity. I think bicycle riders should have to carry photo ID as
well, they all look the same in their fancy coloured lycra tights and there's no rego plate.
Back in the old days you only had to quote your licence number if you didn't have your licence on you, I still know
mine. What a waste of time that was, I could have said anything pre computer checks and the copper would be none the wiser.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ups and Downs - Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 10:16
Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 10:16
'they all look the same in their fancy coloured lycra tights'
I think it's the spare sock that does that.
Paul
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Follow Up By: gbc - Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 10:50
Sunday, Feb 19, 2017 at 10:50
THere are apps for cyclists such as 'road ID' which I use. All my emergency I for is save as the lock screen photo on my phone so anyone who presses the
home button can see it.
I can't speak for all riders but in my case it isn't a sock ;)
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Follow Up By: Keir & Marg - Monday, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:41
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 at 11:41
I have a photo of my licence on my phone. My phone is usually in my pocket, so even if I forget my wallet or my licence, I still have the licence details with me.
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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Monday, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:09
Monday, Feb 20, 2017 at 12:09
NSW is working towards the introduction of a digital licence...
NSW Digital Licence
Cheers, Baz - The Landy
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