Warn Winch - Control Box clicking but not winching
Submitted: Monday, Apr 10, 2017 at 13:04
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Top End Az
All - On the weekend I thought I'd roll out the winch cable to have a look prior to the dry season to make sure all was
well before we head off. I have a 9500lbs Warn XDC mounted on my 2012 Isuzu Dmax.
It fed out using the controller for a few seconds then stopped and control box just made a clicking noise thereafter. So I then free spooled the cable out, I went to retrieve it back in and all I could here was the same clicking from what I am assuming are the solenoids in the Control Box (mounted on top of the bullbar). It wouldn't go out or in, just clicking noises in both directions.
The winch has only been used a couple of times, but not in anger, only for winching my trailer up a greasy slope and testing purposes. It's about 3 years old. It has been submerged in water once a couple of years ago but I have used it since then with no problem. From a bit of online research the two most likely faults could be faulty solenoids or a buggered motor although I've hardly used it so hopefully the motor isn't burnt out. I realise now I should probably use it a few times a year just to keep it all working properly.
So I need some assistance with how to
test the solenoids to see if this is the problem and if so how to replacing them. Bearing in mind I'm not that handy with the
tools or electrics, I am going to try this first, as to get to the winch (on an ARB bullbar) looks like pulling the bullbar off unless there is another way. Thus far I have checked the fuse and the grounding of the earth to eliminate those.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Reply By: B1B2 - Monday, Apr 10, 2017 at 15:12
Monday, Apr 10, 2017 at 15:12
Top End Az,
My winch, same model, had the same symptoms. Removed winch, pulled it apart to find 2 of the brushes in the motor had jammed in the holders. Freed them up and all working ok again. I had used it in anger, and it had been submerged in mud and water a lot of times.
If it is the problem, it is an easy fix with some CRC.
Your best idea --
I realise now I should probably use it a few times a year just to keep it all working properly.
By the way I just removed my winch from the bullbar this morning. I use a couple of ropes to lower it to the ground. There are only 4 main bolts holding it, disconnect the control box another 2 screws and disconnect the power supply. Remove the hook from the wire so it slips through the fairleads.
Good Luck,
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Follow Up By: Top End Az - Monday, Apr 10, 2017 at 15:36
Monday, Apr 10, 2017 at 15:36
Thanks for the reply. I'm guessing then that I just need to find a way to remove the bash plates off the bottom off the ARB bullbar to drop it out. Didn't look straight forward yesterday when I was under there having a look.
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Reply By: The Bantam - Saturday, Apr 15, 2017 at 21:43
Saturday, Apr 15, 2017 at 21:43
unless you aid top dollar for the waterproof version Warn
winches nor their control boxes are waterproof.
Pretty much any winch even the ones that claim to be waterproof should be serviced if they get immersed.
If you are mechanicaly tallented it's pretty straight forward ..... dismantle clean & regrease.
As I understand The warn control boxes are not realy state of the art ...... pretty much the whole box or the guts thereof can be replaced with one of the more modern single block sealed solenoids from one of the generic winch suppliers or from ebay/amazon.
they pretty much all wire the same.
cheers
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Reply By: Top End Az - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:32
Tuesday, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:32
An update for future reference; I had a good look over the winch on the weekend. First checks where to
check the fuse, all battery connections, terminals and battery charge which all checked out ok.
With the help of my mechanic neighbour we then used a
test light to
check that power was getting to the terminals on the winch body which is was, so the conclusion being all the solenoids, electrical connections and so
forth were fine.
So, this being the case, it was time to remove the winch from the Dmax which meant accessing it from the bullbar. Contrary to what I first thought of needing to remove the whole bullbar, the ARB bullbar has 3 bash plates underneath, by which once removed (takes 10 minutes) enables sufficient room to unbolt the winch from the front (after removing the rollers), disconnecting the battery and all the connections from the winch body. It comes straight out with plenty of room to spare.
Opening the winch up was a bit of an ordeal but once opened we could see that the brushes were corroded, and the actuator was a bit rusty on the bottom, no doubt from sitting in undrained water. After cleaning up these and giving it a spray we reinstalled it, tested it and now all good to go.
All up it took about 3 hours to do all this, and I have no mechanical inclinations whatsoever, so I encourage anyone whom has a problem with their winch to give it a go. I reckon it's still a 2 person job to help with the winch removal and putting it back in purely from a perspective of making it easier to line up the bolts etc. Anyway, long story short, thanks to all for helping me with some troubleshooting tips and advice.
If only Warn made their
winches waterproof, considering the nature of a winch which you'd expect to be used in an offroad environment. If there is anyway to waterproof it I'd be interested to hear it, otherwise I think from now on I will be sticking a tarp across the front to try and limit water from entering the winch area next time I go through any decent water crossings.
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