Maralinga confusion

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We want to tour the atomic test sites of Emu plains and Maralinga via the Anne Beadel Highway and Emu Rd but the permit states that you cant enter Maralinga from Emu Junction. Does this meanMaralinga Village itself or the area. We only want to go as far south as the Maralinga atomic test site
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 06:55

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 06:55
Ivan, the road between Emu and Maralinga is now closed to the public both ways after some incidents. You won't get permission to travel on that road,

You have to enter maralinga from the south.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 19:16

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 19:16
Had a feeling it may have been that. I will email them to check 100% but I will start planning a different route.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 20:16

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 20:16
Just found this on their website.

"Visitors require an access permit to travel thru the Maralinga Lands. Transit is generally restricted to the Anne Beadell Highway but if you require access to other roads a written letter addressed to the Maralinga Tjarutja Community Council is required and subject to approval"

So I will write the council a letter and ask. They can only say no.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 06:31

Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 06:31
Good luck with that Ivan. While I did get permission in the past I was told by the manager of the lands council that from about late last year, no more permission will be given. I know one or two seasoned travellers of the region had to make other arrangements. The last one was about 2 months ago.

Take a look at the heading on the application form.
Maralinga Application form.

ACCESS IS NOT PERMITTED FROM EMU JUNCTION TO MARALINGA VILLAGE.

I'd would be interesting to see if it is possible again though..
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Reply By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 17:57

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 17:57
If you just want to look at the A/Test sites there are 2 which are located along the AB road. No need to go onto the Aboriginal closed road. However if you want to see the sites near the Maralinga village you have to book and pay which now is a bit exxy these days in comparison to a couple of years back. All a bit 'slick' these days. Member Stephen L from Clare will probably post about it. He's been there many times.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 19:14

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 19:14
Wanted to do Totem and then duck down to Maralinga but if I cant go down Emu rd then will only be Totem at Emu Flat. Dont have time to drive all the way around to enter Maralinga from the south.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 21:33

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 21:33
Hi Trouper

Agree with what you say.

My personal thoughts now is that is a money grabbing cow and it is very regimental.

From their web site, they now only do 2 tours per week on specified days. Those of us, like you and many others that went before know that there is no way you can take in all that Maralinga has to offer in just one single day and pay big dollars for going there.

I say one day, as that what it is. Day one does not count, as you are met at the security gate and then escorted to the camping area and that is it for that day.

Day two, or should I say your only real day has you out on the range tour and then back to camp, and then next morning you leave the site and escorted out of the gates that you came in.

As for the Emu Road, it is a very real petty that verbal permission is no given to use it, as from my point of view it was a great drive and you travel through some fantastic country.

I would love to know what has happened, as I would have thought that all of us that travelled this road would have respected the area that were were privileged to do drive.

Some say that some thoughtless people damaged the Stone Hinge site. If this is correct, it would hope that it was not people that were given permission to drive the Emu Road, or is it just talk and an excuse to stop access to this track?

The trouble is that there are far too many conflicting reports and even though they say the road is closed, I know of people that have still been given permission to drive it and at one time when I spoke to Robin, that was the whole reason why the road was going to be graded, to get more people to visit Maralinga from the Anne Beadell Highway end.

Either way, it is disappointing that it could be closed and lets hope that the powers to be re look into the reasons why it is closed.


These are just my personal thoughts.


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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 07:10

Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 07:10
Hi Stephen...

I have also travelled the Maralinga / Emu road and it is very spectacular, so a pity it can't be done any more.

I wonder if part of the issue is that the Defence Department actually required that someone from Maralinga was "required" to accompany visitors to/from Emu via this route. At least that was my understanding of the approval.

I was thinking of doing another tour of Maralinga in October when I go to Oldea for the Rail Centenary

Cheers, Baz
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Follow Up By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 19:19

Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 19:19
Baz, I wouldn't bother particularly as you have been there before. You would only be disappointed as I was on my second visit. There was no seeing the old workshops or Hospital or sitting around the BBQ with Robin who, once lubricated, told some amazing stories. That I enjoyed as much as the tours in your own vehicle. I'll be interested to see how long he stays there putting up with all the comparative slickness these days
.Nodoudt if you are a 'first timer' you will still love the experience, its just that prior to 2015 it was all very very personal.

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Reply By: Idler Chris - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 21:57

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 21:57
I have been to Maralinga 3 times in the early days and they were fantasic experiences. However now things have changed and there seems to be a power struggle between Robin and some other person who is unknown but has a lot of power. Who knows what is going on and don't be suprised if things change again. Stephen L knows more about Maralinga than most, so if he does not know what is happening, then no one does. I am leading a group from my 4WD Club throught the outback this year and will be attending the centenary of the joining of the Transcontinental Railway ay Ooldea on the 17th October this year. After that 8 vehicles will be going to Maralinga, so if they find anything out I will let everybody know.
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Follow Up By: Baz - The Landy - Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 07:13

Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 07:13
Hi Chris

I'm heading to Oldea in October so it will be good to catch up.

Cheers, Baz
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Reply By: Lindsaydi - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 22:18

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 22:18
I have gone in from Emu with Robins permission. At first thought the tour sounded exy however i found that it was brilliant,also stayed a few days. All in All to my mind it is a must for ALL Australians to visit. I also do not believe that it is a money grabbing exercise particulary as people think nothing of paying $50/60 for a carton of beer.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 22:59

Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 22:59
Hi Lindsaydi

As per my reply above, I still think it has gone through the roof with the costs.

Previous costs were $100 per person for the range tour and camping was very cheap.

The costs now are $225 per person to stay and camp 2 nights and one day out on the Range.

When we were there, we spent 2 days on the Range each time and you still never saw it all, seeing something different the next time.

It was a far more relaxed atmosphere before and you just took your time and got to see a lot more.....

Do they now see the Riffle Range shooting area?

Do they now go out to Nawa Junction?

Do they get to see the old Cricket pitch and the Oval?

Do they now go out to the old Cement Photo Bunker?

Do they now go out to the end of the XA Road and see what is out there?

The list goes on an there is no way you can see it all in just one single day.


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Reply By: Baz - The Landy - Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 07:23

Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 07:23
On Maralinga, a great place to visit especially for those with an interest in Australia's Atomic History.

This is still a sensitive area and I believe the tourism venture has the potential to be shut down at anytime by any one of the groups with a vested interest, including the traditional owners, or government agencies.

I am glad we went a few years back and for those who are interested, do it sooner rather than later.

Maralinga Blog - Maralinga Village, A Glowing Report

Mind you, this is just a personal view, I have no deeper insight than my own observation - I hope it remains open for all to see long into the future.

Cheers, Baz - The Landy
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Reply By: Member - Leigh (Vic) - Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 20:36

Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 20:36
Been out to Maralinga a few times and each visit has brought it's own rewards. Been a privilege and received a few as well. Having done the new range tour, marvelled at what Robin has done with picture boards and written commentary out on the range and seen the investment in camping infrastructure, (caravan park type facilities including WiFi) I appreciate the logic behind the new pricing structure. The tour bus is a beauty, keeps people together making friends and sharing stories and you don't have to wait till Tail end Charlie arrives until Robin can speak about the area you have arrived at. The new tours are very efficient and save a bucket load of wasted time as was the case previously, and furthermore it's not my running costs but Robins that gets you out and around the range. A saving over the old arrangements. I also appreciate that we no longer (in tag form) have to follow in others dust trails. There was no pressure for late arrivals or early departures so a fair amount of time is available to tour the village, view photos, videos and just hang out. All considered very reasonably priced and most memorable!
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Reply By: IvanTheTerrible - Thursday, Jun 01, 2017 at 22:03

Thursday, Jun 01, 2017 at 22:03
Current tour price is $225 per person! Guess who isn't going
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