Engel fridge MT17F-G4
Submitted: Friday, Jun 30, 2017 at 17:47
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Craig L1
Hi there, I have an 12 Volt Engel fridge with the above Model number
It runs no problem at all on 240 volt power But when connected to 12 volt power Does not get cold,, Any Ideas? I am thinking maybe a capacitor on the P.c board?
Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, Jun 30, 2017 at 22:33
Friday, Jun 30, 2017 at 22:33
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Why are you thinking that it "maybe a capacitor on the P.c board?"
Does one of them look 'funny'?
Why not a resistor on the board, or a transistor, or an integrated circuit, or.....?
It's a bit like saying "my car won't start, what's wrong with it?"
The only way to determine the cause of the problem is to carry out logical troubleshooting. If you cannot do this then enlist the assistance of someone who can.
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Reply By: Tony F8 - Saturday, Jul 01, 2017 at 16:48
Saturday, Jul 01, 2017 at 16:48
Allan, it was more a case of corrosion of the fuse itself, as you
well know moisture and electrical current create corrosion, I possibly should have been more precise, but was hoping to get the op to
check it, a lot of people don't realise there is actually a fuse there.
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Reply By: AJC - Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 14:49
Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 14:49
Hi Craig,
The Engel is a 12Volt DC fridge (also does 24V DC), so if it works on 240V AC then this automatically means the DC circuitry (12V) is working. (to work off 240V AC this voltage is converted to 12V DC internally).
So nothing on the DC circuit board is faulty - look elsewhere.
Most likely (as suggested by others) a faulty DC cable or fuse, perhaps even a plug or socket on the DC side of things.
Cheers
AJC
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie - Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 15:41
Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 15:41
I agree.
The OP's problem though, is that fridge isn't getting cold on 12 volts, but does on 240v. On 12 volts he has an indication (lights?) that power is "there", just not running the motor and getting cold.
There maybe a partially severed wire inside the plug which is allowing enough juice through to activate the green LED on top and/or the internal lamp, but isn't allowing enough juice through to fire-up the compressor motor.
Like I said earlier.....see if you can borrow somebody else's 12 volt cable and try that.
Also, worth checking the power supply to the cigi socket (or dedicated Engel receptacle if one is fitted)....as there could be a case of insufficient power available. This can commonly occur when somebody uses a factory-fitted cigi socket in the back of a Japanese wagon.....the cabling to those sockets has to travel around 6 meters from the front of the vehicle and is about the thickness of the cotton grandma uses to mend your old jocks!!!
Roachie
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Reply By: Craig L1 - Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 18:24
Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 18:24
Hi Guys, So I have tested the Fridge on Another car and Another Spare 12 volt power Lead that we have ( we have 2 Engels), and it does the same thing
I have connected our spare Engel Fridge to where the faulty fridge was and the spare fridge runs no problem at all,
Secondly, being Refrigeration Technicians we have all the testing gear in Fluke Multi metres and so on, I have also Inspected the 12 volt P.c board for any burn marks and so on and it is clean
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 18:39
Monday, Jul 03, 2017 at 18:39
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In that case Craig, it looks certain that the problem lies within the fridge. The 230v supply is reduced to 12v and supplied to the control board, but just because the 230v works OK does not mean that the control board is fully OK as these two 12v inputs enter on a differing part of the circuit.
Also, visual inspection of the board may not reveal any faults.... a fault does not always leave visual evidence.
However, there could be a problem in the connection of the 12vdc at the fridge input socket or in the wiring of this 12v to the control board. Try connecting the 12v then use your meter to find 12v at the back of the plug and on the input connections on the control board. If no 12v on the board then the problem is with the input plug/socket or the wiring to the board. If there is 12v on the board and it still does not run, then you likely have a faulty board.
As far as I know, the fridge uses only one thermostatic sensor so if the fridge works on 230vac then this must be OK.
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