Shenanigans.

Having worked in many remote area towns for several decades....this is the norm. Until people actually spend a few weeks in these places they will never understand what is really happening .

What is happening then Bigfish? Just last week there was a piece in the West Australian where an indigenous person was saying that the cops have got to do more to stop the sexual abuse of their kids.
How much more can they do? Cop in every house, in every room, in every school class?
What about their elders who are supposed to be the respected tribe people? What are they doing?
They're no longer respected by most of their people and can do nothing so it's left to "activists" to constantly harangue whitey for not doing enough.
Tax payers money is poured into the aboriginal "industry" in the billions, mining companies pay billions and still the bottom line is nothing changes.
If you know so much maybe you'd better tell everyone else then the problem can be fixed....but I won't hold my breath waiting for change.
AlanTH.

Very well said Ron..
Eventually you would hope people would take some responsibility for their actions and stop blaming things that happened 200 years ago...we have been through all that country many times...
Danny

Bingo Danny.

Maybe time to change your meds AlanTH..I was agreeing with the post...........

Why the bleep does this always happen? You want to argue politics and history, do it elsewhere. About sick of this shit

Ivan, I really can't see anyone arguing about politics or history mate.
I see people recognising there is a major problem here, one that has never been resloved, has only gotten worse, and usually gets buried in the sand.
It's good people actually talking about this, it keeps it in peoples minds that it is real and maybe a solution can be worked towards instead of just digging a deeper hole.

Apologies BF. Read to me like it was heading towards blaming whitey once again.
I well remember a front page pic with an old bloke sitting on his block surrounded by filth him and his family had thrown everywhere.
In the story attached to it he was complaining and saying "They've got to send someone round to clear this up"!!!!
They're directly responsible for most of the shit they live in so they should clear it up.
The other bit they want to clean up is who can call themselves "aboriginal".
Now where's my pill bottle........
AlanTH.

It's gotten off track to the OP quite a bit, but just to show a mainstream media story in the news yesterday, it is an issue out of control with some areas of the country.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4785834/Greens-party-paedophiles-opposing-cashless-welfare.html

Watching that video is heartbreaking, but the reality.

As someone who has lived in Kalgoorlie for nearly 20 years and been visiting it all my life I would have to disagree with your statement about Kalgoorlie, Ron.

The problems with Aboriginal crime in Kalgoorlie have diminished markedly in my time here as more and more Aboriginal people move off welfare into the mainstream workforce, buy homes and take responsibility for their lives.

It used to be the case that almost all the crime was related to Aboriginal youths and kids, but that's not the case any more. That is not to say there are no problems caused by Aboriginal people, but they are largely from itinerants.

I would say our biggest problem in Kal with criminality is related to drugs, especially methamphetamines, which is overwhelmingly a non-Aboriginal issue involving younger males aged less than around 35 and very often young fellas without good social skills.

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That's encouraging to hear Paul, thanks for sharing your personal experiences.

Ice is a big problem all round, all demographics, rich or poor, but especially the vulnerable in Australian communities as it's so easy to get and cheap !!
Alcohol and pornography abuse is still looking like major problem is some towns of the Pilbara and Kimberley, most likely along with certain drugs etc.

Apologies to Ivan for the OT still, I realised it is his thread after his post on Sunday !!
It's a relative issue, I guess a lot of boredom / mindless vandalism / violence is obviously related to all sorts of substance abuse and resulting mental health.

Paul, I'm glad to hear that - but reading the news items about Kalgoorlie, it would appear theft is still a big problem - particularly when off-road motorbikes are involved.

What gets me about the Elijah Dougherty case is that the bloke chasing Elijah killed him accidentally, whilst trying to recover his stolen motorbike.

So that resulted in a 3 year sentence for manslaughter - and the Dougherty family and their supporters then screech there's no justice for black deaths.

These people obviously have short memories.
Bill Rowe, a white farmer from Geraldton, was killed in a cold-blooded murder on Xmas Day 2007 - violently bashed to death with a cricket bat by the Aboriginal Matthew McDonald.

Bill was merely trying to stop a gang of Aboriginals stealing his beer from his Esky, when his family was having a Xmas Day picnic.

McDonald served just 5 yrs and 9 mths for this outrageous crime, which would warrant a life sentence anywhere else.

I know where the injustice lies, and Doughtys supporters claims are pretty hollow.

In addition, the bloke who killed Elijah had his house burnt to the ground and his family had to flee town. I note no-one has ever been charged for burning the house.

Meantimes, the McDonald family live in Geraldton in peace and supported with every possible assistance - whilst Bill Rowes widow lives with the memory of every Xmas Day celebration being marred as the anniversary of Bill's needless death.

Bill Rowe murderer released

Cheers, Ron.

The Elijah Doughty matter was a somewhat isolated example and I thought the guy that killed him got off very lightly, frankly. Not that I didn't have some sympathy for his plight in having had his motorbike stolen, but it certainly wasn't worth killing someone over, no matter how inadvertent the killing might have been.
The bigger issue in my mind is how we deal with the social dysfunction that leads to these situations. Undoubtedly work is the critical difference and getting people, any people, off welfare dependency is just so important. The sooner the so-called cashless welfare card comes in the better.

We never camp near towns or people. I run a business and when we go bush it's to get away from everyone and everything. :)

Us too, Ivan. But there are still the fuel stops. You just don't know what dickhead wants to spoil your day.
Cheers