12v LIGHTING

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:06
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Ok, my question is what is the best 12v light for brightness, we have a narva hand held fluro paid $79 at the show, good light, is there anything better. Need more light according to SWMBO, it's to light the camper and annex. Any help would be great.

Baz.
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Reply By: Outnabout David (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:11

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:11
Baz,

Not sure about the Narva but I use an ARB adventure light and find this excellent. I think most of the dual fluro lights are pretty much the same. I have had a couple of single filament fluro's before and they were nowhere near as good as what I have now.
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Reply By: flappan - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:24

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:24
Versalite are good.

Gotta get me one of those.

I have rigged up a 12v Halegen (sp) downlight (same as the house ones) with a 45w bulb. PLENTY of light , and use bugger all power.
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Follow Up By: joc45 - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:20

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:20
I run an 11w Versalite and a couple of 10w integrated 12v CFLs stuffed into canisters. The Versalite is much better, and cr@ps all over the cheap 12v flouro stick lights. Also ruggedly built, and takes dropping from a fair height.
I used to use the 12v Halogen, but a 20w version draws a bit under 2A, whereas the Versalite is a bit under 1A and lots more light. Minimal noise on the HF radio as well, but the halogen is totally silent if you are trying to have an HF sked.
But basically, chase up a 12v light which uses the CFLs, not the straight flouros. The light output is much better, and they last a lot longer.
If you're on a budget, Jaycar sell quite good 13 and 20w ones for about $20, you just need to put them in a clear plastic cannister. http://www1.jaycar.com.au , search on 'lighting, flourescent lights'.
If you've got the $90, buy a Versalite.
cheers, Gerry
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Follow Up By: Aston - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:40

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:40
Hi,

BUY A VERSA-LITE

Cheers Aston
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Follow Up By: Jimmy - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 19:07

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 19:07
45watts
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Reply By: Magnus - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:31

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:31
Dual Fluro 2x8 watt fitted with Tri Phosphor tubes (about $4 each). Chews 16 watt but gives heaps of light. The Tri Phos are aftermarket. Buy them from Bunnings.

I also use 10 watt halogen downlights like used in homes. !2 volt and buy from marine suppliers as these lights are used extensively on boats.

Cheers

Magnus
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Reply By: locallaw - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:48

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:48
Gidday,I purchased a couple of 12 v power saver bulbs.I think they put out about 60-70 watts but not sure.Send me your e-mail address and I will send you some piccys of how I have set them up.I am going up to the Edward river very soon and I will get them out for you.If you have a inverter you can also use the 240v version.These ones come in11 watt and put out the equivelant of a 70 watt or better.Check them at Bunnings.
Seeya Locallaw
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:57

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:57
bmfitz AT optus DOT com DOT au thanks mate sounds good, getting some great ideas so far.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:11

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:11
Sorry (optusnet).
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 00:59

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 00:59
I second that 240V power saver bulb idea. Tried it just for the heck of it on my boat, using the 150W inverter I had. Result, heaps more light than any other lighting type aboard from just a 9W bulb that was drawing only 1 amp from the battery. Tried it also with a 5W bulb and this still gave a very acceptable light.

Those who had mentioned that the cheaper 12V fluoro lights cause radio interferance might be interested in this trick. Some years back I bought a quite expensive, supposedly interference suppressed, two tube fluoro set from the 12V shop.
It caused heaps of radio interferance. Being the electronic type I set out to find a cure. This was simply fitting a larger electrolytic capacitor across the power input. I had to check the interference on the oscilloscope to find just the right value capacitor but once found and fitted the interference vanished like magic.
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Reply By: The Banjo - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:57

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 17:57
There has been a LOT of comment on this - some of the downsides too - search for Versalite and lights.....etc
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Follow Up By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:03

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:03
Hey Bango, before i posted i tried a search but it did'nt come up with anything. On the search thingy, i typed in 12v lighting and it came up with no results, am i doing it right, i don't seem to get the same results as i used to before they change it a while back, is this me.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: The Banjo - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:15

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:15
Bango ? Bango ?? Please.....I'm talkin' mountain music here....Ban'J'o !
Re the searching......point taken....it seems a bit daggy.....there WAS a lot of talk on lights.....might pay to search for single words...all lower case....and select body (not title) as the parameter. Have a go........mine is a Piranha - most of the twin tube small fluoro's a great, but usually priced close to $100 or +. All of them are prone to stuffing up HF radios (that includes the car broadcast radio) - they are buggers - the signal is strong and it washes over all frequencies - often have to turn that light off if you want to listen to an HF radio (FM - UHF unaffected)...that said, they are still the best camplite...we have a gas lamp as backup, in case the noise is chronic (weak signal incoming can't beat the light's signal) OR we are low on 12 v energy. Chrz...B
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:17

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 18:17
The 'Supa light' from WA Solar puts out alot of light & is ideal for hanging from a tree etc. (best I've found) It's a 2D fluro in a square lamp shade & only uses 1.4 amps from memory.
Also there are some new LED globes out with 12 LEDs in a down light base. These only use .04 of an amp so are buying 5 to mount together in one light. Will report how the test goes when I get them. Cheers Craig..............
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Reply By: Baz (NSW) - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 19:07

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 19:07
Thanks everyone, alot of great ideas i'll look into them on the weekend.

Baz.
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Reply By: lazylcd - Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 23:47

Tuesday, Jun 08, 2004 at 23:47
a good cheap investment for the cargo area in your 4b is 1 of those $20 jobs from supercheap a length of cable, how ever long and cable tie it to ur cargo barrier, or fit a cig. lighter socket and a longer cable, and u have a handy work light, works for me

Lazy
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Reply By: madcow - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:58

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 07:58
Why pay big bucks when you can get the same light as a Versa light for about $50. These are available at your local Lawrence and Hansen or Auslec store. In fact they are exactly the same light as the Primus brand except for the colour and come with 2 hooks, canvas carry bag and inline switch. I own both one of these and a Versa Light and there is no difference in light output between the two. Have a look at electrical suppliers in the yellow pages.

cheers
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Reply By: captnsnooze - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:53

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:53
Gooday Baz

I have two versalites, they are famtastic, there are some clones for example I think Primus makes one. I got a no name clone from a place near foairfield but it was crap I took it back.

Cheers
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Reply By: captnsnooze - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:54

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:54
Gooday Baz

I have two versalites, they are famtastic, there are some clones for example I think Primus makes one. I got a no name clone from a place near foairfield but it was crap I took it back.

Cheers
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Reply By: Tuco69 - Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:24

Wednesday, Jun 09, 2004 at 11:24
Have tried just about all - and have come to the conclusion that the Nelson ELV 12V compact fluro is just about the best.

Go to the Nelson lights website and go to 'Product index/Garden lights 12V Botanical' then scroll down to Commercial grade garden lighting / ELV.
These globes are available from Bunnings or most lighting specialists for about $28. They have built in radio suppression and the warbling and screeching noises on HF will be a thing of the past.
I have had many other campers come to us and ask about our 'bright lights'.
As they are 12V dc - there is no worries with external camping applications, and the possibility of rainwater contamination. Wet leads and equipment that is used outdoors may be fatal with inverter/240V applications. 240 V is not forgiving at all!

"The Nelson ELV is the first Low Voltage lamp that provides excellent efficieny in a 12 Volt system.

The light output of the Nelson ELV is equivalent to a 60W incandescent lamp.

Due to its low power consumption and high efficieny the Nelson ELV further reduces running costs by decreasing the capacity of the 12Volt Transformer required.

Ideal For :- Do it Yourself Garden Lighting - 240V quality using a 12 Volt system
whenever mains supply is not available or is to exprensive to install.
Camping and Caravans "

Cheap, great piece of gear.
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