Potential rust bombs for sale

Besides the no knowledge or care about mechanicals or knowledge of the wise way to do things, most of these duds (notice the "e" is removed from dudes) booze heavily, take drugs and also become walking murals with tattooos too.
With little care or personal pride and attitudes like those mentioned here, you can hardly expect them to think of others, care for a vehicle or the environment, when they are the centre of the suns rotation. You have to revolve around them because they were not bred to ever recognize you.

Many of them are probably dead before the vehicle they stuff up actually rusts away or the enviroment they damage looks like being regenerated.

Nothing wrong with Tattoos.
Cheers

Nothing wrong with tattoos
When they're put on when the skin is young and still has shape some can look good, unfortunately some will never look good either with or without a tatt, and some will totally loose it when the skin can no longer hold it's shape (LOL ).

As my old man said to me once, ( regarding tatts ) "A pretty picture on a pig is just a picture on a pig , it's still a pig"

Most of them aren't prize pigs either-especially the femme kind.

I have never had anybody able to explain why they got a tattoo or why they wanted to do it to themselves. Parents happy they were born without birthmarks and then they do that to themselves. What mindset makes that happen?

The worst is on beautiful young girls who deface themselves and then think it is cool or attractive. Yuk!

Hey RMD, have you ever thought those young girls are cool and attractive to the young boys who like tattoos? I don't think they are doing it to be attractive to old farts, lol.
I am personally not a fan of the Tatts myself either but each to their own.. I think there will be a thriving industry developing of tattoo removal soon.

There are many cultures in this world were tattoos are a status symbol.

But then, we can be a fickle bunch. You could meet someone, like them, and not even know they had a tattoo or tattoos, and yet many people change their opinion of the person once they become aware of it.

Odd, isn't it?

I say, accept people for who and what they are, they've no need to explain anything to you, just take them at face value...after all, everyone most likely has something about them that someone isn't going to like.

My Saturday morning rant, good luck out there,

Cheers, Baz - The landy

Was on Fraser a couple of weeks ago and noticed some of the drivers blasting through the water were Grey Nomads with faded Tats. :)
Dave.

What the hell is with all the tattoo comments? Sounds just like "all those long haired guys" type of comments from the sixties. In other words- old gits whinging about things they didn't do when they were that age.

I used to run a rock climbing gym. One of the climbers asked me for a job. He had tattoos galore, piercings everywhere (including where I asked him not to bother showing me!) and ritual scarification marks. The gym owner was adamant I not give him a job (said it would look bad for the business). I told him I was managing and would give the guy a chance.

He turned out to be one of the best employees I ever had (even told me when he would be not available for a few days, he and his mates were getting high for a celebration). We ran school climbing activities and he became a fast favourite of the private school kids and teachers. Great guy.

Baz, It is funny you said that we can be a fickle bunch.
I was at a family get together down at a beach one Xmas, and was talking to this elderly Lady for quite some time.
We had a good chat about everything that could be talked about between a young fella and an elderly woman, without becoming awkward.
Towards the end of the day it came up about Tattoos and she said straight out she could not be bothered talking to anyone that was silly enough to get a Tattoo. I tried to explain to her that just because some one has one does not make them bad person.
Then she got a bit uppty about them, so I pulled off my shirt and showed her that I had a couple.
She turned away and walked away and has never spoken to me again.

I got my first one 45 years ago and is just starting to fade now.
I had an ear ring in for nearly 30 years, been an alcoholic at an early age, but sober for the past 36 years, smoked recreational drugs from time to time, smoked cigarettes since I was 15, and still managed to keep the same job from 1974 to 2014.

Doing any of these things does not make everyone a complete moron, just some, and in my opinion only, they have the makings of being one long before they did any of the above.

I have no secrets, don't really care what people think, live life the way that suits me, smile a lot when others put those thoughts into words and tell me how I could have done it better.

Cheers,

Opps, smoked the wrong rolly.

"I have no secrets, don't really care what people think, live life the way that suits me, smile a lot when others put those thoughts into words and tell me how I could have done it better..."

I'll second that Blue, life is way too short to go around worrying about what other people think or do...

Cheers, Baz

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My wife Roz is an audiologist and had her own practice. One day a 30's something wearing a blue singlet and covered in tats came in for a hearing test. He had been hit on the head with a baseball bat or lump of timber and was suffering hearing loss. Another patient, an elderly lady sat next to him and remarked.... "I've never seen anyone who looked like that". The blue singlet replied..... "No sh!t". (I held my breath)
"I'm 92 years old she said"....... "No sh!t" from the blue singlet. They went on to have a pleasant conversation for the next five minutes until on departure there was a "Goodbye young man" and a "Seeya later luv".

Not moralising, just recounting an overheard conversation.

Tattoos are like Babies. You see other peoples and they're cool, but yours is never as good & you can't get rid of it.
Dave. :)

"their" car or "there car.

Difficult being a spelling nazi when your own punctuation lets you down!
:-).

That's true pmacks. *Provided* they also declare what they have been doing to the vehicle to a buyer.

I had a 4wd that had been underwater ( by me). It was a touring vehicle and it developed a very intermittent electrical fault that stopped it working for days on end,. then magically it would be fine for months. Years of trips to the dealer and electrical specialist recommended by Mitsubishi, and it could not be fixed..I simply could not rely on it. They could never figure out of it was a loom or an ECU or something unrelated. They suspected that a connector pin somewhere hard to get to had corroded and gone intermittent.

When I sold it, I didn't want to pass that problem to a buyer, especially as it was on the surface a remote touring set up. I fully declared the problem to every buyer, and none took the car. Eventually I sold it to a guy who wanted to rebuild it.

I got about $20,000 less ( half) than I would have done if i kept mum. But that $20,000 paid for peace of mind that I was not going to be responsible for a family stuck in the desert with 4wd that won't start.

I sincerely think very few people would declare something like that. It's just me.

That's why I would never buy a vehicle was a high risk of having spent a lot of time in salt water. I can say from experience that some problems don't show up for a looooong time and they can be impossible to fix.

entitled to do whateva they like hey, easier for dad to buy them a 4b than deal with there attitude at hoem.

It is a different type of buyer today as well
Like you said in the 70's etc you bought a 4WD deliberately for the type of vehicle it was
Nowadays the SUV is the most popular vehicle in the market so you have most buyers that are largely uneducated about their purchase and how to treat it respectfully. A few big dollar repair bills soon teaches them though

Leasing is relatively new, too. Most leased vehicles are turned over at 3 years (if they haven't already been upside down LOL) so you don't have to look after yours, do you? Just hand it back to the finance company and get a new one.

Looking at some of those video clips gives me cause to shake my head.
Most have a "language" caution but forget to include the fact we are mostly watching idiots senselessly destroying vehicles.
The intelligent driver gene pool is rapidly draining and seems worse the closer to salt water they get.
mike

To be fair, if people want to damage and mistreat their own vehicle it's up to them, a good reason not to buy used unless you know the vehicle or you have had it checked out thoroughly. Michael

I had a 4wd that was registered in NSW that go drowned on the west side of Fraser.

Sold it 4 years later with no rust in the body but every bit of cad plating had gone. Just needed a new fuel tank, clutch and seats (the salt in the seat foam rusted out the seat frames about a year after the dunking) - everything else was OK after the dunking and then the extensive wash out with fresh water.

Tony, my golden rule when looking at 2nd hand 4wd's - don't touch anything that has fishing pole holders on it....

Silly I know, but.....

You forgot to mention not to buy from owners with tatts, otherwise spot on with the rest

I didn't dare mention tatts as I have a couple, this would put me in the reckless class regarding saltwater. One son is covered in them and drives a 19 year old car that I hope isn't rusting away, he also has an IQ of 142 and earns some really big dollars.

Same as the old man, he walks around in bare feet.

I just love people that generalise and chose to place others that are different into a box. Snobs and those who believe they are superior are alive and thriving it seems.

Have 4 close neighbours in Qld with 4wds and they use them for that purpose, 2 have tatts and they also walk around in bare feet. Non of them go near saltwater andheaven forbid they all drink alcohol.

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Hi Alan,

You used a phrase that is usually ignored...... "salty SAND or water".....

There are frequent expressions, including in this Thread, about the perils of driving through salty water on beaches, but the issue of salty sand is not considered.
The whole beach is twice-daily washed with salt water and the sand thus coated with salt. This sand is thrown up onto the body & chassis and lodges in crevices, generously coating the steel with salt. You don't need to drive into water to collect salt.

I have no way of evaluating the relative corrosive effects of salty water and salty sand but would think that they are about equally harmful to the vehicle. So any vehicle driven on a beach has received a dosage of rust-causing salt. Of course thorough washing is helpful but I doubt that it would totally remove all salt from either water immersion or salt-coated sand.