Water bladders for a 200 series Landcruiser

Hi all, got an extended trip coming up through the outback of NT, WA and QLD and looking at the need for the 100 litre water bladder that sits in behind the from seats of a 200 series Cruiser. I'm in 2 minds for the need for it or better safe than sorry. I am not thinking of drinking water only, I am thinking of other uses, washing showering etc and leaving the water in the camper to be used for consumption. I am wondering if there are baffles in these bladders to stop and slushing of water while travelling or is there no issue with them. Is there a taste issue if you use it for drinking. Any experiences guys especially from those who have used them. Or shall I just take a couple of Jerrys.
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Reply By: gbc - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 09:01

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 09:01
Mine is a 70l flexitank. No baffles. Fill them without air bubbles and they dont slosh until they are nearly empty. Next to zero taint. The weight is exactly where you want it to be. We use ours only on desert runs etc but wouldn’t be without it.
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Follow Up By: kerbarb9 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 09:44

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 09:44
Thanks gbc.
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Reply By: Tony F8 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:29

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:29
May be worth having a look at Enmach Industries, they have a range of tanks that may suit your needs
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:40

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 11:40
I put one of these behind the middle seat, in front of the cargo barrier.

water storage

Mind you, I now think it's hard to go past the 15l wine cask style containers from coles and wollies.
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Reply By: Member - PhilD_NT - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 13:57

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 13:57
If not using for drinking and opening big enough then feed in a large number of practice golf balls (white air type) to stop sloshing. May reduce capacity a little bit and small amount of tainting possibly acceptable to many.
Or for a more specialized version.
http://shop.ctstore.com/store/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=70


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Reply By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:00

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:00
If you are in two minds about it then leave it at home.
Personally I think most people carry too much water which equals unecessary weight.
Carry enough for personal consumption plus a smaller quantity for utility use that can be topped up in creeks etc on the way.

I am with Boobook with the cask water idea that allows you to reduce storage requirements along the way.
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Follow Up By: Member - mark D18 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:16

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:16
Alby

Totally agree .
We carry 60 litres and have never ran out .
Those 15 litre Coles containers with taps are really handy .
No wonder their are so many over weight vehicles out there .
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Follow Up By: Crusier 91 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:46

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:46
Each to their own, but I don't agree and have never been overweight. Do it right the first time.
The less mechanical/electrical gadgets the better. No need for extra weight of a pump to pump river water, filters, hoses, generators, extra fuel to run generators or the extra work in fetching water etc.
Cant beat KISS.
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Follow Up By: Member - mark D18 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 17:22

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 17:22
Cruiser 91
Who mentioned water pumps , filters and generators .

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 18:13

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 18:13
I don't carry any of those things Cruiser 91, a jerrycan or collapsible bucket works fine to top up my water supply
We are very frugal with our water usage anyway
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Follow Up By: mike39 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 18:16

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 18:16
For any additional water requirements we use the upright style 10 litre supermarket ones with a wine cask type top.
Prize the top off for refilling and with a piece of glad wrap the top does not have to be fully pushed back on.
The convenience of these is that 2 fit side by side in a milk crate.
mike
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Reply By: Crusier 91 - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:40

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 16:40
I carry a 100L across the back floor and the portable 120w solar panel sits on top of it when on the move. No baffles as the bladder reduces in size as consumption goes up. Have done a lot of serious off roading without any problems. Had it custom made for $145 delivered to have the filler cap on one end for easy filling. Also have a 45L made for $85 delivered in its own custom made box that sits on top of the rear draws dedicated for cooking and washing when the camper was left behind or just for a quick stop cuppa.
Both had the residue taste at first but after a few soak and rinse all is fine.
Nothing beats not having to worry about water on remote trips.
Jerrys are out of the question for me, I need look after my back.
The 80 and 100 series have totally flat rear floors, meaning no hump in the centre. Not sure about the 200.
I allocate 8-10L per shower which includes washing hair.
I have once traded 10L water for a bottle of good whiskey, only because he was a total A-Hole.
Note: price was in 2012
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 18:51

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 18:51
" and leaving the water in the camper to be used for consumption"

We are of the opposite view. Water in out Tvan or Caravan is used for drinking, washing and showering and water in the car is reserved for drinking.
So when we go for a drive during the day without the trailer we always have good drinking water.

We travel with 20-40L on the car in jerries for drinking and hand washing
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Reply By: rumpig - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 21:18

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 21:18
Out of curiosity...how are people securing these water bladders in their vehicles?. It's all well and good if nothing goes wrong, but in the event of a crash / roll over i can't say I'd want 50 - 100kgs of water cleaning me up from behind.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tony H (touring oz) - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 21:47

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 21:47
Hi Rumpig,
Was just thinking EXACTLY the same thing,,,,, was wording a reply and your post came in......wise words!
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Follow Up By: gbc - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 22:00

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 22:00
Mine straps down using the chair base bolt points and has a ply cover that the kids put their feet on. Also strapped down. Definitely something to be aware of.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 23:31

Saturday, Jan 27, 2018 at 23:31
Wondered the same about the bladders, but they are down low, so can't see them doing much damage in an accident
My jerrys are strapped down behind the cargo barrier.
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Reply By: kerbarb9 - Sunday, Jan 28, 2018 at 09:36

Sunday, Jan 28, 2018 at 09:36
Thanks everyone for your comments. They are from a wide spectrum of thinking and all valued considerations. Thanks
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Sunday, Jan 28, 2018 at 19:27

Sunday, Jan 28, 2018 at 19:27
I have no rear seats in my 60 series and a 75 ltr bladder fits perfectly across where the rear seat used to be. I used to remove it after each trip but it has been a permanent fitment for the last 10 years or so. I fitted a short piece of 1/2" hose to the filler that is fitted with a tap this is then held high attached by cord to the high seat belt anchor point behind the driver on the door column.
The bladder is inside two (out of use by date) sleeping bags to prevent any abrasion.
There is a false plywood floor covering the whole lot. The water is always cool.
If possible expel all air from the bladder and turn off tap, when filling attach a hose to your potable water supply and turn it on to fill it with water then off, connect to the bladder tap and turn it on and then the water tap and the bladder will fill with water only, no air. When you require water lower the bladder hose end lower than the bladder and bingo nice clean cool water.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Sunday, Jan 28, 2018 at 19:32

Sunday, Jan 28, 2018 at 19:32
P.S. I forgot to mention that the bladder is secured by 25mm straps attached to what was the bolts holding the rear seat.
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Reply By: rlhydn - Monday, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:01

Monday, Jan 29, 2018 at 11:01
I have a 40L rigid poly tank installed between the drawer system and the rear seat with a gravity fed outlet.

I also have a 40L underbody alloy tank with a small pump

In the cabin we carry a 10 or 5L jerry and there is a 2L backpack water bladder in a hiking pack and 1L Nalgene drink bottle

Shower normally costs us around 7-8litres each, a bucket 'bath' half that.

Water is our only beverage after tea and coffee.
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