Over heating wheel

Thanks for the feedback. The spare wheel tracks about 50 mm outside the original tyres track looking at the outside wall of the tyre.
Yes the hand brake could be the issue or for that matter the diccs. I did try to listen for that by walking along side the vehicle.
I am aware it’s not good to mix tyres though thought is was more a diameter issue rather than tracking. I fitted it to the rear for that concern. Was just running out the spare so not a permanent thing I would do.
Thanks again

You have a vehicle with ABS/Traction Control Which doubles as STABILITY CONTROL when required. I would imagine the Stability Control aspect would be totally out of whack if it ever switched on to correct a loss of stability. The added track width on just 1 wheel would be interesting to watch in action. Get rid of that rim.

Thanks, yes we don’t always appreciate the complexity of the vehicles these day.
Cheers

Yep all within one psi of each other. Watch them constantly.

Best to fit correct rim and try it. If it runs cool it is found.

It would also keep it legal.

Thanks good suggestion.

Mmmm could be a stuffed Wheel Bearing ie zero or little grease equals overheating.
Let us all know what the problem is when you find out. A lot of members put a great effort to solve peoples problems but we rarely learn of the outcome

Toyota have the correct rim in steel for $150, if you don,t want to spend big bucks on an alloy rim.

Cheers

Hi Myles
Yes the difference in thermal conductivity could have a bit to do with it but I was feeling the steel wheel nuts immediately after stopping.
Cheers

Thanks Tony
I am a member of Lcool and completely forgot to try that site.
Thanks for the suggestion and also other info.
Cheers Craig

I agree with Tony - most likely cause is a binding handbrake - been overtightened at last service.
Wheel bearings are a very rare problem and are not a servicable on the semi floating rear axle.
And regarding wheel offset - 5 stud Landcruiser sunraysias usually come in zero offset or 30P offset. If its 30P, then probably OK to use - from the back it will line up or just be marginally outside the guard. If its zero offset, then it would be sticking outside the guard. Your factory mags are 60P.
The other difference with steel wheels is they don't dissipate heat as effectively as mags. So your difference between the steel and alloy rears may be caused by that.
Finally, were your tyres hot as well? If so the rears might be underinflated for bitumen with all that extra weight on the towbar. When towing I run around 55psi in the rears of my 200.

Plenty of people do stuff like that. And don’t “ALMOST CERTAINLY CRASH!”
surely you’ve seen some of the heaps of shit some get away with driving on the roads?

Thanks RMD

Shane r1
If you understand anything about a front suspension and steering geometry, having one wheel at the front with 50mm greater offset and it's advantage over the steering axis you would realize the gravity of my above comment. I wouldn't worry about others and what they do, I would be concerned about you.

RMD's comments are a little over-the-top.

The disproportionate pull on one side, caused by increased wheel offset, which would affect your steering under heavy braking - would not necessarily cause a loss of control - unless you were totally switched off, or possessed very poor vehicle control skills.

It would certainly get your attention, though!

RMD seems to have forgotten, as young blokes, we used to have to deal with mongrel drum brakes, and crap cross-ply tyres on old Holdens - that all pulled viciously to one side, EVERY TIME you braked!!

The worst part of the old drum-braked Holden stopping scenario, was that you never knew WHICH DIRECTION they would pull!! LOL

We pretty much all survived that kind of terrifying control scenarios! - and I'll wager it made us all better drivers!

If RMD reckons one odd wheel is immediately going to cause a major disaster under braking - what does he reckon about those mongrel SPACESAVER spare wheels, that are fitted to so many cars today??

IMO opinion, those skinny, SPACESAVER wheels, with minimal road grip, are the most dangerous thing ever invented, and they're an accident just looking for a place to happen!

I'm actually amazed that someone hasn't had an accident directly attributable to a Spacesaver wheel - and they've launched a lawsuit, because of it!

Cheers, Ron.

Hi Guys
I think we have moved a little off topic but I am enjoying the discussion from the side lines.

Certainly I did not notice any noticeable difference under heaving braking (and I did plenty on the gravel backroads around Leonora) with the wider tyre on the rear. If on the front I do agree there could be some affect, just how much I am not sure.
Thanks for all the comments on the overheating.
Cheers Craig

A space saver has it's tread centre where it should be not 50mm outward. As soon as the 50mm greater offset wheel meets resistance be it brakes or bump it is dramatic. Not over the top at all. The scrub radius of the front end is totally changed in relation to the opposite side. Try dipping the oar in water one side of your boat at speed and but not in the other side.
If in doubt about the effect. Go and try it, go on, do it because you don't think it will have much effect. Best way to learn, experience teaches well.
Even with drum brakes the wheels had same scrub radius so that comment doesn't mean anything as the grabbing wheel difference of scrub radius is a few mm and not 50mm.

The only vehicles that I have ever owned that had a space saver tyre as a spare stated that the space saver should NEVER be fitted to a front axle, if a puncture was experienced on a front axle a tyre had to be taken from a back axle and fitted to the front and the spare fitted to the rear. Guess Why. See above.

Ian.g

The space saver on yhe front has little grip and cannot steer, or brake as it reduces the braking to about 40 %. On the rear, forces are less. Braking loss is less, and stability, although reduced still has a full wheel/tyre at the other side to provide some control.
With two proper wheels on front and ABS means the SS wheel on rear won't lockup. Not the best but at least ok at slow speed in an emergency.

From memory it wouldn't fit over the disc brake assembly either.

It all depends on where the flange is situated on the hub and the bearing position. Until you know where each one is in relation to other models the comparing of one to another is pointless. The 60 series and 80 series were quite different in wheel offset. Just because the hole in the middle and stud pattern is the same means Zilch.

Thanks for letting us know, wish everybody followed up as you have!