one spare or two ?

Hey Banjo, might be the way to go. Should save 20kg, Not sure how i'd get the busted one off or the new one on. Only tyres I changes were on my push bike and they could be a pita to lever over the rim. But I'll see what my old mate Google has to say on the matter :)

Tony, If you are happy with just taking a tyre without the rim, for a second spare, it's still better insurance than not taking it at all. You may have to wait a while but someone will come along with tyre changing gear who will be happy to help you. At least you have the tyre and the stress is off. Make sure you take a decent metal handled tyre plug kit for small repairable punctures. That in itself will save you having to use your normal spare if a plug or two will fix thepuncture! I see you have a twin cab, you can pack a lot of gear inside a tyre so to save room if you have to carry it in the back of the ute.
Michael

You sir, are a bloody wizard. Just dump the tyre in the tube and start filling it. I love that idea ?? was wondering where to put it. Was thinking roof as without the rim it’s very manageable but now it’s n the tub.
One full spare, one spare tyre, maybe a tube as well, puncture kit and set of TPM’s sounds like the way I shall proceed.
Thanks ??

We purchased 'tyre pliers' but have never used them.

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Before "packing gear inside the tyre" think about it. With endless corrugations any hard object packed inside the tyre may wear through the sealing on the inside surface of the tyre. My early experience with beer cans packed in the 'spares box' taught me that lesson!

now there's something I hadn't considered, thanks CJ

I am with a Cseajay on this.
The most common way of wrecking a tyre is running it flat without knowing. A TPMS kit will alert you to any issues before it becomes a big problem in most cases.
I have done several Simpson trips and two Caoe York ones amongst many other outback trips and I only carry the one spare. Any punctures I have got I have been alerted to by the TPMS and have managed to plug the hole and top up the air without even getting my jack out
Cape York is not remote and help is not far away. Weight is your biggest enemy when touring so the second spare may attribute to other issues if you are already heavily laden
Having said that, you need to feel confident and comfortable with your setup so run with your gut feeling

Another vote for a TPMS. I have an internal SensaTyre setup and it not only monitors pressure but, as I have recognised, more importantly temperature. On a recent trip to Alice Springs we damaged a sidewall, ironically on a relatively good road. The TPMS immediately gave a warning and after stopping I found that the tyre was only about 30% deflated. Unfortunately even though the tyre was not otherwise damaged it could not be repaired. This was my first puncture in about 70000 km of outback travel. Fortunately Alice Springs was large enough to carry an exact replacement for the tidy sum of $500. My thought is that in future I will carry an extra tyre only, no rim, for situations like this.

"put it on a cheap light alloy"
Why did you not inform me of this idea 20 years ago. Have second spare on roof rack.
Dave.

"When I had 3 spares?" Not a slow leak, puncture, flat or blow out in a few thousand clicks of fast bitumen travelling.

Bob

Good insurance I hope Bob!
We have 2 spares on the rear of our ex Telstra canopy, & a third on the drawbar of our Tvan. Vehicle & Tvan wheels are interchangeable. In regard to our forthcoming trek across the Gibson desert I considered reducing weight by leaving one spare behind, but this raised issues of it's own. We don't carry tyre changing gear (just a puncture plug kit) & the weight of doing so would be a significant part of that saved by leaving one spare at home. Leaving the spare off the drawbar would require a different protective cover to be made - not cheap! Leaving one off the rear of the vehicle would render other storage I have between the two unusable.

So we are taking 3. Most likely over the top, especially as in dire circumstances we could abandon the Tvan & use it's two wheels too!

"............abandon the T-van?" Never, Cuppa!!!

Just camp there till the tilt tray arrives. Thanks follow up,

Bob

Yes I agree with Bob. never abandon the Tvan.

The way to do it is abandon the 4x4 and tow the Tvan home by hand. Slow progress but you get to stay in the Tvan for the rest of the trip.

LOL

Ha ha, too funny!

Bob

Hi Malcom. That first sentence is very true.
We have probably done at least 100 000 kms travelling around this wonderful country. We always have 2 spares for the vehicle and two for the trailer, (we now have a nice off road caravan that also has 2 spares). All interchangeable between ute and whichever trailer.

Never had a flat tyre in all that time. Tracks like the canning, gun barrel, grr, the Simpson 3 times, the Queensland gulf country countless times, you get the picture.

Last week heading into town for a doctors appointment, 5 kays out of town and get a flat tyre so stop and change it. On the edge of town another one. Stop and change it. Late for appointment. Get to the tyre shop to get them fixed and they laughed. They have had about 15 tyres to fix that morning from tek screws.

You don’t have to be remote to need 2 spares.

How many 50mm x 12g tek screws are there in a box ???
Cheers Greg

"How many 50mm x 12g tek screws are there in a box ??? "

Ask your tyre shop :)


Only kidding

Regards

Haha gramps. I did ask them !!!

Cheers mate

Malcom I am not disagreeing with you but a flat tyre is just one of many things that can go wrong with your vehicle, many come unstuck with suspension component failure from being overloaded as well and carrying additional weight ( potentially extra spare tyre) can also attribute to this.

GregJ1 response is testament to this with the amount of off-road k’s he says he has done and not had a puncture yet is carrying 4 spares around the country
The incident he did have could of easily been addressed on the side of the road with a repair kit without even using his first spare.

Not looking for an argument, just putting a different slant on it as luck plays a part in this as well. Your mate in the 200 had a bad run but how many tyres did the previous 100 or 1000 vehicles wreck on that same stretch of road?

Just sayin!

Alby. Totally agree what you said. Overloading does place stress on tyres and suspension and causes trouble out bush. But I do believe in Murphy’s law as well.
Sure I could have poked a cable into both those flat tyres.
IF I had one with me.
Not looking for an argument either but I guess I just ran out of luck. Just wondering how many how many 100 or 1000’s of vehicles went down the road I drove on and only 17 flat tyres. ( There is only 1 tyre shop in town ). Poking a cable into a puncture is only a temporary fix so I guess one day I would have had to get them fixed properly any way.
Cheers Greg