New report shows how Aboriginal people first reached Australia

Submitted: Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 18:03
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This turned up in my email today and makes interesting reading. It says their research shows that Aboriginals arrived by deliberate boat journeys and was no drifting accident - see Report by Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence for Australian Biodiversity and Heritage (CABAH)
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Reply By: Shaker - Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 19:28

Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 19:28
I wonder what happened to the land bridge theory, this paragraph makes me wonder what happened to their boatbuilding skills.

“Purposeful voyaging on this scale relied on advanced cognitive, linguistic, symbolic and technical capabilities,” he said. “It would have required construction of watercraft and well-developed navigation technology as well as planning and information sharing ahead of an open ocean voyage lasting up to a week.”

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Follow Up By: Iza B - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 06:39

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 06:39
The "would have required...." bit suggests I put the whole report in the bin. A theory that posits they came by flying carpet "would have required only a Genie to produce the carpet ...."

No evidence the original peoples had any boat building skillls or explanation of what happened to those skills. No examples of coast dwelling groups still using boats exist. No dreamtime/oral history stories with such content. Lastly, no rebuttal of the long accepted land bridge theory.
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Follow Up By: Member - Rod N (QLD) - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:37

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:37
I thought they came by space ship as evidenced by the Wandjina paintings and Erich von Daniken's book.
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Reply By: Member - Len & Rhoda - Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 21:46

Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 21:46
Interesting, may go part of the way to help explain Bradshaw Art up here.
And who the FIRST inhabitants were.
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Follow Up By: Member - lyndon NT - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 08:02

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 08:02
It is only a few decades since the elders in the Kimberly called the Bradshaw art "rubbish art". For convenience, I now believe they have adopted it as their own. I would be inclined to believe the older generations.
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 21:53

Thursday, May 24, 2018 at 21:53
I knew it the whole time.

They deliberately sailed past Thailand, Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia. When they got near the coast of Australia, they called 000 and drilled a hole in the boat.

Upon arrival they were given accommodation, food and welfare. They were welcomed by a bunch of self serving, left wing lawyers and do gooders, and never wanted to go home.

And that ladies and gentlemen is how it all started.
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Follow Up By: Aussie1 - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 09:49

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 09:49
Perhaps this item was meant to be in Friday Funnies :)
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 15:22

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 15:22
When we find the boats, we can tick this theory off and put it to bed ! :)) Michael
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:00

Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:00
The ignorance and latent racism is palpable Aussie1.
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Reply By: Member - John and Val - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:02

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:02
Hi Michelle, Yes, interesting, though I am sceptical in view of the lack of supporting evidence. The island hopping alternative, though widely "accepted" as plausible, has no decent evidence either. Maybe combining the two theories, so we could postulate deliberate movement between islands may have some traction.

For the moment though, interesting, but I'll keep an open mind. Reasonable people with good minds and analytical skills have come up with an interesting theory which we have no grounds for either accepting or rejecting.

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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:48

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 10:48
Yes I am was very surprised to read their proposed theory too and have never heard this version so thought it I'd put it out there for you all to consider as FYI !

It's a bit like the MH370 mystery - perhaps we'll never know.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 19:39

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 19:39
Theories are just that...theories. I don't know how anyone could prove anything, but it is just another "plausible" explanation of how they got here.

Another deeper discussion is about were they the original inhabitants here ??
How can or could we prove they were or weren't ??

Then we could go deeper.....they lay claim ( by way of land claims ) that they were the original inhabitants, but in the short history of this world, is this the case ??

I think a more plausible name could be .....custodians of the land before white man came !!
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:16

Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:16
Been a while since I did some reading about it but there's no evidence of previous occupation Gronk. It's possible something might be discovered in the future of course.
Very old news but:
New research proves Aboriginal people were Australias first inhabitants
How can we "prove" occupation etc?. "We" can't but anthropologists, archaeologists and other experts who have looked at evidence can make well-educated propositions.
The new arrival theory seems to have a lot of speculation but no compelling supporting evidence. Then again I'm no expert.
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Reply By: Member - Len & Rhoda - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:13

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 11:13
The islands off the Kimberly coast and Northern Australia have a story to tell, just a pity they are locked up to the rest of us.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:36

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 12:36
Which islands in the North are you referring too?
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Follow Up By: Member - Len & Rhoda - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 15:58

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 15:58
All the ones that are now subject to native title and are off limits.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 16:03

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 16:03
Thats fine but which ones are off limits? Torres strait allow people on them. Islands around Darwin and Nhulunbuy also allow people.

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Follow Up By: Member - Len & Rhoda - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 16:35

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 16:35
Any of the islands on the Kimberly cost that are within the native title area are off limits to anyone without permission to land, that also includes the coast line that is within the native title area. Bit like some of the roads within native title areas you have to get permission to travel. The Port Warrender Road going to Mitchell Plateau and Port Warrender on the coast is an example, last year you were free to travel the road, this year now it is within native title area it will cost you $50 per head and next year that is supposed to double.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, May 25, 2018 at 18:11

Friday, May 25, 2018 at 18:11
No worries. Thought you meant that they wont allow people. Naturally a permit/permission is required.
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Follow Up By: Member - Len & Rhoda - Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:13

Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:13
Have fun getting the permit.
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Follow Up By: Michaeljp - Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 15:13

Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 15:13
The Port Warrender rd is only $20 per head.
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:20

Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:20
Afaik you can't walk into any private property without an invitation. Try entering a mining lease and see what happens.
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Reply By: Ron N - Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 10:33

Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 10:33
I trust these "first peoples" boat arrivals got the necessary permits before they landed! - and I guess their boats were impounded, until they paid the calculated Customs bonds!

It would have cost them a mint, landing on Australia's shores, in that kind of high-value technology!

I often wonder who the Aboriginals displaced, and killed off? I think they might have left that bit off their oral history and rock painting records. They certainly didn't "land in peace".
They didn't hesitate to ambush and attack whites on many occasions, despite low-tech weapons, and their inter-tribal warfare is legendary.

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Follow Up By: Gronk - Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 18:31

Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 18:31
They certainly were very territorial, and had many battles with neighboring tribes.
If there were other people here before them, I'm sure there would have been bloodshed, just like our ancestors did to them.

Just like parts of Europe, very hard to determine who was the original inhabitants, being so long ago in the past ?
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Follow Up By: Bazooka - Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:30

Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 21:30
A combination of generalised codswallop and outright bullshit there Ron. Time to do some reading, and I'd suggest you search for books by authors other than Keith Windshuttle if you want to expand your understanding. I can recommend The Biggest Estate On Earth by Bill Gammage as a starting point.
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 16:43

Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 16:43
I have to set people straight about the arrival of the real boat people.

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Reply By: Ron N - Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 18:03

Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 18:03
As an aside - if anyone is interested in reading about Aboriginal History since the white man arrived, the ANU has published an ongoing, peer-reviewed, multi-disciplinary journal of Aboriginal History, since 1977.

This journal has been published virtually every year since 1977 and a couple of times a year in recent years.
The journal currently runs to 41 volumes, and makes for an extensive history lesson, as regards the interaction between Aboriginals and non-indigenous peoples, over the last 230 years.

The journal is available online in PDF form for free, but if you're one of those who needs it in printed form, it will cost you $38 per volume!

The Aboriginal History Journal - ANU

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Follow Up By: harryopal - Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 18:47

Tuesday, May 29, 2018 at 18:47
Every anthropoligist wants to be noted. Without meaning to be unkind it seems thinking up a new theory that can't be proved or disproved is one way of making a splash.

When you look back at all the the theses that have been written and stored at museums around the country there is probably enough paper to crush to death every Aboriginal in the country. The interesting thing is the line between an anthropologist who has worked to actually assist Aboriginal people and those who see it as an academic exercise and being scrupulously careful not to "interfere". There must have been hundreds of studies carried out that observed Aboriginal people living in poverty and slave like conditions on cattle stations but the authors chose to step back and not get involved in politics.

This latest theory reminds me of the notion that the universe started with the big bang. I can never get past the question as what was there before the big bang that caused the bang?
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 16:58

Wednesday, May 30, 2018 at 16:58
" The Universe must have had a day without a yesterday "

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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 06:40

Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 06:40
Yesterday and tomorrow don't exist. There's always only now. I thought that up now when now was yesterday.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 23:37

Thursday, May 31, 2018 at 23:37
"what was there before the big bang that caused the bang?"......

Well, every time I've heard a big bang - there was always a very loud screech of brakes, right before the big bang ..... [;-)
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Reply By: Richard C - Tuesday, Jun 05, 2018 at 21:52

Tuesday, Jun 05, 2018 at 21:52
From a cave painting in Arnhem Land



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Follow Up By: Banjo (WA) - Wednesday, Jun 06, 2018 at 09:24

Wednesday, Jun 06, 2018 at 09:24
I'm told that a lot of art on Cape York is referred to as "Dulux art'. Maybe occurs elsewhere also.
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