Speeding Fines

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:21
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If driving in Queensland from July, lift your foot.

From the new budget.......

"The (Queensland) State Government is predicting it will gather $189 million from speeding fines next financial year, a rise in revenue of 17.4 per cent."

And it's not 'revenue raising' ????

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Reply By: Malcom M - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:23

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 07:23
Whats wrong with revenue raising?
Would you rather that Gov funding came out of your taxes or the wallets of offenders?
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 08:07

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 08:07
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Agreed Malcom, that is what I have always said, and still do. Let the bloke hurtling past me pay my taxes.

But my point was that the "authorities" have consistantly chanted the mantra that fines were not "revenue raising" exercises, but in this press release the Treasurer is gloating over the prospective income.

Now I am about to hit the road so no more from me.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:11

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:11
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It isn't only the blokes, who are now called dudes or guys since the American invasion/takeover, the women have right feet too and many successfullly use the right foot to contribute to proposed government programs. They support the future too.
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Follow Up By: Member -Pinko (NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:32

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:32
And, when when you approach one of those many level train crossings in a 100km zone and the sign says watch for the 'red flashing lights' and you are intently watching for them and you miss the small 80km sign behind it you will then find a cop with a radar device on the other side of the crossing. The 80kms only lasts about 100mts either side of the tracks. Bingo $287 !
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Follow Up By: Member - peter_mcc - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 13:39

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 13:39
Nothing is wrong with revenue raising... except when the government tries to pretend it isn't revenue raising and when improving safety becomes a distant second to raising revenue (eg by where/how they catch people speeding)
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Reply By: Aussie1 - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:39

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:39
Over here in the West I refer to these perpetrators as " VOLUNTARY Revenue CONTRIBUTORS". And will be forever grateful for their ongoing efforts. Good to have freedom of choice.

Or for those who have the "need for speed", get elected and change the speed limits to what you consider is best for all of us.

Happy and safe travels all.
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Reply By: Iza B - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 13:57

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 13:57
I believe the targets, that used to be called quotas, have already been issued to the police.

Quite bizarre to join a supposed road toll reduction tactic to a way of paying for the budget measures. Many better ways to reduce the road toll than to fine people for exceeding a posted speed limit by more than one K per hour.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 18:44

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 18:44
Any budget has to account for all income & expenditure, they have to include it!
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Reply By: Idler Chris - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 16:21

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 16:21
I have no problem with speeding fines, they are completely optional.
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Reply By: Winner W - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 17:52

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 17:52
Its farcical the wayQueensland police are blatantly raising money under the lie of saving lives. In the 2 years since they have lowered the tolerance threshold for fines they have increase their revenue by many tens of millions BUT the road deaths have increased by more than 12 % and most of the deaths were not speed related at all .
No I dont speed and havent had a fine in 15 years .
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Follow Up By: Member - johnat - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 19:40

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 19:40
^^^THIS, is fact!
Every law should have an automatic sunsetting clause which requires the government to evaluate the ACTUAL effect of the law. IF it didn't do what it was intended to do, the law should automatically lapse!

We are endlessly subjected to "speed kills" and (one I saw just the other day) "Just a few kays over ... say Yeah ... NAH!" - all pretending that the speed limit is exactly the maximum speed that that bit of road can be driven at without extracting the life from you! Nothing could be further from the truth!

I don't contribute voluntarily to the state coffers very often (have just a single demerit point in the past 20 years or so) but the emphasis on exactitude of speed is annoying!
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Follow Up By: ian.g - Thursday, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:20

Thursday, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:20
I hadn't had a fine in about 10 years but got pinged by a camera the other day in James Street Toowoomba for doing 62 in a 60 zone, this is not the width of a speedo needle and I think is revenue raising in the highest order. James Street in Toowoomba is the major transport through road for this city. The fact that the first I knew that I was speeding came by mail two weeks after the incident doesn't stop me speeding at that time, however if I was actually pulled over it probably would have that effect. As I said REVENUE RAISING.
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Reply By: Theo D - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 20:08

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 20:08
Im no cop, but can tell you all Qld Police and Transport personel are going to go hard at two things over the next 6 to 12 months and they are unrestrained/uncovered loads and unrated tie down straps and/or damaged straps e.g. ratchet straps, pin straps, bungey straps etc

Ropes are no longer allowed to be used. The rule for many years was rope of any variety over 12mm diameter - this is no longer the case.

All straps must have rated labels and be in good order. No major knicks or tears that could reduce its rating.

A few years ago there was a crackdown on rated shackles, it appears they have now moved onto the above.

The department whom I work for are currently doing an audit on everything I've mentioned above and they arnt mucking about I can assure you.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 21:55

Wednesday, Jun 13, 2018 at 21:55
Considering the Rated Shackles rumours were debunked Theo, how did your department cope with rated shackles rumours?

"The shackles myth seems to be circulating yet again. This is a false rumour."

Myth - Rated Shackles
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Sunday, Jun 17, 2018 at 23:22

Sunday, Jun 17, 2018 at 23:22
"Ropes are no longer allowed to be used".

A major fallacy, promoted Australia-wide, by revenue seekers, and the ignorant.

The law only states that rope used for load restraint must meet AS/NZS 4345 and be marked accordingly.
Ropes that are load rated are colour-coded and labelled with the AS/NZS 43 45 compliance tag.

Sisal and Manila ropes should never be used for load restraint, only synthetic fibre ropes.

Ropes should only ever be used for light loads, and the user should make himself/herself familiar with the appropriate rope knots, rope-shortening techniques, and rope tie-off methods.

Load Restraint Guide for Light Vehicles - 2018

NSW TAFE - Load restraint equipment

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Jun 18, 2018 at 07:42

Monday, Jun 18, 2018 at 07:42
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Geez Ron, you can really spoil a good myth.

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Follow Up By: 9900Eagle - Monday, Jun 18, 2018 at 12:21

Monday, Jun 18, 2018 at 12:21
As Ron said synthetic rope is fine for light vehicles as long as it complies. It is not used in heavy transport anymore although I still like them, same as I like using dogs with a pipe extension, but workplace health and safety don't see it my way and ratchet or turnbuckle dogs are used now.

Give me a piece of pipe anytime.
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor_H - Thursday, Jun 21, 2018 at 20:37

Thursday, Jun 21, 2018 at 20:37
Then the Queensland Transport web page needs to be updated. https://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Vehicle-standards-and-modifications/Loads-and-towing/Load-restraint.aspx
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Reply By: Member - Scott & Sally - Saturday, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:15

Saturday, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:15
Let's disappoint them shall we.
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