Something different to while away the weekend.

Submitted: Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:43
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Calling all you Einstien's!!! The poser I am about to ask, I do not know thw answer to, this is not a trick question, and I am not trolling( Lone Wolf trolling? That'd be the day!! Just loves to see his rig pic on every post! )

Okay....... here it is.......

If you had a compression spring closed up (compressed ) tight and held in place with a bolt & nut, and placed it in acid to disolve, what happens to the stored energy in the spring? Does it like give off extra heat?

Like I said, this is not like some Buddhist Koan, it is a real question that has needled me for a while.

I await your replies.

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Reply By: Dave from Fraser Coast 4WD Club - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:44

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:44
that's actually a good question!!

Wow, are you feeling okay??
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Reply By: Cina Troopy - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:47

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:47
Geez go back to stickers that was easier. Cina

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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:56

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 08:56
The energy would release when the spring "breaks". The dissolving wouldnt be uniform along the length of the spring, and sooner or later its go "ting".

Now in a perfect world where all things are equal and dissolution is uniform the energy would be dissapated as heat into the molecules of solvent.

QED
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:04

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:04
At this stage, I am leaning towards Bonz's answer, not that I'd know any different!

Unless another theorey comes up, looks like he'll get the 250 gram bolck of Cadbury Dairy Milk Chocolate......... you know.......... the glass & 1/2 thing with that nutty professor Sumner Miller dude.........
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:24

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:24
yes only the remaining energy ( a portion of what it commenced with) will be released when the spring breaks.....the acid has lessened the amount of energy that can be discharged due to the weakening and disolvong action of the acid....
and i can get three glasses in my chocolates cos i buy the family blocks ...all for me!
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:25

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:25
How was Berri?

Was Willie there?

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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:29

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:29
yes he was
enjoyable night...a light shower or two during the night but pleasant weather...not too cold.

check out member rigs and Fourbyfour....just realised who it is :-)
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:30

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:30
no prize for second place nutty, I assume the throne and claim my prize, you can send them to 7 strong st warrnambool Loney
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:31

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:31
but your only half right and the other half was wrong hahaha
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:37

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:37
Yes....... Fourbyfour........

I had mentioned this the other night, but no-one bit.......
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:40

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:40
he also hinted this morning that he is weakening ..so we could see him soon
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:43

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 16:43
Well........ this forum is adictive!

Never met the guy, but can't wait to give him some stick, after the stunt he pulled about us all being Prima Donna's.

Gee, for a bit, I thought it was a case of the old making way for the new........

Biting yet Willie????????
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Reply By: Member - Robert B (QLD) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:16

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:16
Wow I'm Fabber gahsted then again I am a Trooy tojo Driver HA! HA! lol Bozo
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Reply By: Allan Mac (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:30

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 10:30
And I'm amazed too , then again I'm just a silly ol retired bugga
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Reply By: Gajm (VIC) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 11:25

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 11:25
Check out the big brain on Bonz!" (Pulp Fiction)

I had to check I was on the right forum.
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 12:19

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 12:19
Hey Bonz,

Here's one to test you: What's a Royale with cheese and why?

Jim
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:57

Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:57
This question is about food, any nuance regarding food is immaterial to those of us, (as Zaphod would say), with a brain the size of a planet. But I do happen to know, a Royale with Cheese is a french burger, marginally upmarket, and sporting a dairy based garnish of cheese.

What do they call a Big Mac? is more the ponderance. Le Big Mac!
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:02

Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:02
Some may say the metric system couldnt cope with a Quarter Pounder
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Follow Up By: FourbyFour - Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:34

Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:34
Ahhhh Bonz......another Zaphod fan. Have you tried the Gargleblaster yet.

That aside......I don't understand the question(nor the answers for that matter) but I wouldn't mind some of the chocolate, however :-)))))
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 15:00

Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 15:00
One day at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe I shall shout you a Pan Galactic GargleBlaster and we'll sit back and muse over old times. I shall dispense said chocolate as soon as its available Sir.
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Reply By: Mrs Diamond - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 11:50

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 11:50
it would depend if any body was about
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 14:58

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 14:58
about what ?
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Reply By: rob1 - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 15:11

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 15:11
WOW!!!! it IS a long weekend isn't it.

l&lol:)
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Reply By: Mark R - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 18:59

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 18:59
Hi Lone Wolf, GOOD question, While I appreciate the humour above, I want to get serious for a minute. Remember a spring under tension is just billions and billions of atoms or molecules which have between them a minute twisting force which means billions and billions of little packages of potential energy just waiting to break free . As each of these couples are separated by the chemical reaction you are suggesting a tiny bit of potential energy would be released slowly over time. If the spring finally broke, which would be highly likely, events described by Bonz would occur.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 19:15

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 19:15
Bonz mate, looks like your gonna have to share the chocolate, this guy's good.

So......... as each of these couples are slowly eaten away, does the extra tension between them give off energy in the form of heat?

I guess like if you had a measuring device, and 2 beakers, one with loose components, and the other with them all done up tight, would the latter give off more joules in heat as the latent energy is being converted?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Victoria) - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 19:24

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 19:24
The teacher told me in my school days that the heat generated is so small it couldn't be measured by any instrument. That was many yrs ago things may have changed. Yep we did it at school, in fact what you ask is an old favourite.
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Follow Up By: Lone Wolf - Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 19:27

Sunday, Jun 13, 2004 at 19:27
Yes, what I ask is not my own concoction, as I have read about this, but never have been satisfied with any answers.
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:01

Monday, Jun 14, 2004 at 09:01
Chocolate is just just billions and billions of atoms or molecules which have between them a minute sugar force. Break them apart by sharing and a chain reaction develops, utterances such as "He has a bigger bit than me!" and "Watch out, there are Llama's" will quickly escalate into small to medium scale warfare which never ends well.

I suggest you send me the chocolate and I will deal it out to any and all contenders via email.
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