Redarc BMS with temporary solar
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 17:34
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stoooge
I have in my vehicle a redarc BMS1215 with a 120ah house battery.
On the roof is a 75watt permanent solar panel connected via anderson plug. This all works
well and is a solid set up.
On the days where its a little cloudy or I want to give my battery a boost, I have a second solar panel (foldable) that I can utilise.
How and where do I wire in a second anderson plug to attach a temporary panel when I need it?
Thanks in advance!
Simon
Reply By: Dean K3 - Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 20:01
Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 20:01
running a second panel in parallel is ok, so long as the watt input doesn't exceed the maximum input allowed by redarc specifications
which is fairly low 250w max from memory
Connection ideally would go into same solar input connectors on redarc unit.
meaning two positive wires attached to redarc unit and negative wherever it required to go.
remember this also means the additional solar panel must unregulated as having to regulators opposing each other will cancel each other out.
The alternative method run a secondary twin core and connector separate to redarc system and then connect directly to battery. This however doesn't allow each "system to see" what each other is doing and over change maybe possible, but cloudy days probably negates this somewhat.
On subject of redarc folks had a alarm going off on a BMS systems for whatever relay it was (solar input or similar), turns out it wasn't fixable according to redarc so at reduced online price had to replace whole unit.
Hopefully you won't be in same situation as they were in.
If in doubt suggest contacting redarc directly they have a tech section n
forum and have answered exactly same think I asked them about doing same thing.
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Follow Up By: stoooge - Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 20:19
Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 20:19
Thanks Dean K3.
This is exactly what I was thinking. Thank you for your thorough reply.
I have had the unit for around 6 years, just redoing / remodelling a portable battery box- and had no alarms since purchase...
Thanks again.
Simon
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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 22:44
Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 22:44
Stoooge,
The 75 watt panel can be linked to the regulator input using a parallel connection anderson as mentioned above.
If the 75 w and, presumably a 120watt additional panel, will see only around 11 to 12 amps of charge on a good day. Therefore all should be quite ok with a 15 amp regulator of Redarc quality.
The wattage rating of panels is factory ideal conditions and never achieved in normal useage. I have two folding, same same, 120watt panels, ie, 240watts in theory, and on a cooler sunny day with strong sun it will only produce about 13 amps max with a MPPT regulator. The theory says 20 amps but reality is different.
If, and only IF, your regulator can withstand a high input voltage, ie, double the panel open circuit rating, you could arrange a connection using anderson plugs and double the panel voltage by connecting them in series for shady. cloudy days and the panels will then each deliver some usable charge energy when the normal parallel connection isn't going to do much at all, if anything.
A few checks and precautions to be observed to do this though, but it gets charge into batteries where normal systems stall.
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Follow Up By: stoooge - Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 22:58
Wednesday, Jan 30, 2019 at 22:58
Thanks for the reply RMD.
You have answered a few more questions I had. Although not yet purchased, I could potentially get a 200w solar blanket and still remain under the 15 amp recommendation.
I think I know how I am going to wire it up now- but I am open to more suggestions and
information to those who are in the same situation.
Thanks again RMD
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:51
Thursday, Jan 31, 2019 at 07:51
Stoooge
With a 200watt panel AND the 75 watt as
well, both wired in parallel, you would then be OVER the 15 amp regulator input rating when good sun is available.
Therefore, if still using the same regulator it might be best to unplug the 75w roof one and just use the larger 200w panel. This situation isn't then using all your solar ability though because the regulator safety becomes an issue.
That is the trouble with setting solar things to work, everything you change creates a need for some other item to be required until all is in balance. Maybe a bigger capacity regulator will be needed in future if higher charge rates are required.
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Follow Up By: stoooge - Thursday, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:40
Thursday, Jan 31, 2019 at 08:40
My impression between the two BMS units (1215 and 1230) is the amperage output. 15amp and 30amp respectively. The input should be regulated and cant be "overloaded"- is this correct?
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:09
Thursday, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:09
The specs you posted does indicate the reg only draws what it can use / accept so you can have more wattage of panel than units 15 a output. This concept is a bit different to some other regs which have less fancy electronics inside. Redarc have made it possible with their inverting stuff inside the reg.
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