SATELLITE PHONE or SAT SLEEVE

Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 15:39
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thinking of purchasing or hiring a satellite phone
any advise please
the cheapest?
the most expensive?
the best?
the worst?

i have also seen the SAT SLEEVES to dock a mobile phone into.
any advise on these also?
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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 15:54

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 15:54
I have a Sat Phone I hire out to members, $40 a week plus any calls you make. When do you want to hire it from/to?
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Follow Up By: Member - astrowa - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:23

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:23
hi john
thanks for the offer but i see you are based in VIC and iam based in WA
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Reply By: Baz - The Landy - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:00

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:00
Having had three different Sat-phones over the years...my vote goes;

Best: Irdium Xtreme
Most expensive: Iridium Xtreme

Sat-sleeves: Personally, I'm not a fan...

And for ongoing costs; my thoughts:

Sat-phones: Thoughts on costs

Good luck with your search.

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Reply By: duck - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:06

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:06
I have a Iridium Extreme Sat phone on a plan (pivotel) & others I travel with have sleeves & cheaper models mine seems to be the best out of the bunch. It gets out when the others don't, but read up they all have problems getting out pending the conditions & Satellites etc. I think the Iridium models are at the top of the list.
I like the pivotel plan as incoming calls are at std mobile phone rates to your callers, so if I’m calling home I just get them to call me back far cheaper way to call, & if I’m travelling by myself I have a call time they just call up & it’s just std mobile phone rates
Good luck
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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:56

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 16:56
astrowa, no problems, we do have a postal service in Vic, LOL. I will say that I am going to be using the phone myself June, July, August, September, so it may not suit you any way.
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Reply By: Greg J1 - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 19:20

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 19:20
Hi Astro.

No idea if my sat phone is the dearest,cheapest, the best or worst but in my family business we have 5 iridium 9555 sat phones. Why ? Well just simply they work in the remote places we work. All of our work vehicles have a sat phone and all connected to Pivotell.

Can’t offer any more advice than that. They just work when required.

Cheers Greg.
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Reply By: PhilD - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 22:38

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2019 at 22:38
I have an Iridium for when I am on the go, and a Isat Hub for when stationary. The Isat is great for messages and internet (still reasonably slow and costly) as it interfaces with my phone and iPad.
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Reply By: Member - peterdre - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 16:39

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 16:39
Hi Astrowa,
We have an older Iridium 9505. When we travel remote the TELSTRA SIM card (post paid plan) from our iPhone is fitted to the Iridium 9505.
Phone calls are expensive at $4 per minute, but there Is ongoing plan cost.
The calls are charged as an extra to your normal TELSTRA bill.
Works fine for us.
Pedro
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Follow Up By: Member - astrowa - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 16:52

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 16:52
thanks pedro
like your off road pop up caravan - very nice
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 19:16

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 19:16
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Calls at $4 per minute are not really "expensive" if they are for emergency situations. How often do you have them after all?
On the other hand, using the SIM from the iPhone saves on the ongoing cost of having a satellite plan even if you make no calls.
You could easily 'be ahead' in the long run.

But if you are 'calling home' frequently then it is another story.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 21:13

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 21:13
I am lead to believe that you can make emergency calls (to 000) with a sat phone with no sim card at all. So, if the only intended use is during a dire emergency then just getting a working sat phone and not bothering with a sim is another option. Not ideal but just a thought.

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Follow Up By: Member - peterdre - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 22:38

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 22:38
OOPS !!
Just noticed an error in my follow up
Should read “there is NO ongoing plan cost” at line 5.
Apologies
Pedro
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Follow Up By: Zippo - Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 11:26

Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 11:26
Agree with Allan B re the $4/min call cost via Iridium/Telstra and balancing call cost against standing cost. We have a dedicated SIM on the Telstra Mobile Accelerate Casual Plan ($10/mo) for our Iridium 9555. (If we had a regular Telstra mobile service on a plan we'd SIM-swap from that, but there isn't one that suits our regular life usage). Apart from our winter treks in Oz, took it to US and Canada for some of our remote stuff there in cellphoneless territory.

$120/year, and no calls made/received to date except testing. Carry an Optus-based cellphone and one on a (short-term) Telstra plan when travelling out there, as Optus have done a LOT of infill in the last three years so you really need both.

We keep abreast of evolving coverage on both those networks (VFAU are useless away from big smoke) so if there is a domestic emergency requiring those back home to call us, we would advise when we are next in cellphone coverage and keep the call duration short, returning the call later if appropriate.

May not be everyone's best solution, as I know some feel the need for daily checkins - a Pivotel plan may work out best with that sort of calling pattern. But the amount we save on our "daily" plan (also $10/mo, on Telstra wholesale) compared to regular T plans more than covers the satphone SIM standing cost.
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Reply By: Member - peter_mcc - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 17:29

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 17:29
If you search I think there are some other similar threads.
I have a Thuraya XT Lite on a Pivotel $15/month plan. $1/min for outgoing calls, free incoming calls. Phone costs around $710 -$740.

It works well enough. I have a magnetic car antenna for it.

If you're not hiring take a look at the total cost of ownership over a period - some of the phones can be expensive to keep connected to the network (eg cheapest Pivotel Irridium plan is $50/month vs $15 for Thuraya and $20 for Globalstar).
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Follow Up By: Jarse - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 19:17

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 19:17
I have the Thuraya satsleeve on an Optus plan. I use the omnidirectional magnetic roof antenna, and it works everywhere.
Suits me :)
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Reply By: maurice b - Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 22:38

Thursday, Feb 07, 2019 at 22:38
I also use the Thuraya XT lite with external Antenna so have full time reception . Best value for money, for $15 /month you can afford to stay connected fulltime. My istaphone is retired to my rear drawer's as a backup due to to increasing costs for there prepaid service.
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Reply By: Malcom M - Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 07:28

Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 07:28
Got rid of our Isat Pro as the running costs were too high.
Bought a Sat Sleeve and very happy with.
We can suspend the account indefinitely and just reactivate it for our trips.

Very happy with it
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Reply By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 12:06

Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 12:06
I use the Iridium 9505 on the Telstra sim setup as mentioned by Allan.
Why Iridium? well when researching this back in 2005 I discovered that all Outback police, Ambulance Service and Remote Nursing Service used these. That was good enough for me. Bye the way signal is generally received in 30 seconds. How good is that?

Jeff
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 17:05

Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 17:05
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Agreed Trouper.
It can be good strategy if looking for "the most reliable" product to look at what our Emergency Services are using, be it vehicles or accessories. It may not be the least expensive though.
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Reply By: Member - Gadgetman - Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 13:36

Friday, Feb 08, 2019 at 13:36
I have an Iridium Go with a $30 a month Pivotel account.
The device is very popular with mariners (they tend to use PREDICTWIND).
Had it a couple of years and have used it all over the world.
Uses an iPhone or Android to connect (up to 5 devices connected at same time).
Uses your phones latest contacts, which is great.
Probably the cheapest Iridium device.
As mentioned, it is great with Pivotel as callers just use mobile number and cost.
Also having a device that is separate to the headset means that you can sit inside with the phone (with its outdoor cover on) outside (even permanently connected).
You can also elevate device (e.g. up flagpost) to get better reception, as long as you stay within WiFi range.
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