Manufactured Fuel Camp Stove

Submitted: Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:03

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Brown Hornet

Hi everyone,

We’re heading to Fraser Island in Sept and would like use a camp stove for cooking and heat which is legal when fully enclosed and using manufactured fuels - description from QLD Parks website below. But I can’t work out the actual type of device/stove we can use. Can anyone help with types, makes or models??? Thanks in advance.

From QLD Parks website:
A fully enclosed cooking or heating appliance, preferably using gas or fuel, can be used at all camping areas unless a total fire ban is in place.

The appliance must use only manufactured fuel.
It must be used for cooking and/or heating only.
It must be 20cm off the ground.
Manufactured fuel does not include timber or wood.
Appliances that are not fully self-contained, such as braziers, are not permitted.
All appliances, materials and fuels (e.g. heat beads) must be removed from the national park on departure.

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Reply By: gke - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:12

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:12

Hi,
We use a Cobb. You are unlikely to need much heat in Sept.
Try to avoid the school holidays if possible.
Enjoy, Graham.

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Follow Up By: Brown Hornet - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:56

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:56

The Cobb looks like a great product. I want sometning for cooking and a bit of bush TV for the kids (even though heat beads or briquettes), than heat. Yes we are going within the 2 weeks prior to QLD school hols. Thanks.

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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:51

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:51

I would guess that a gas stove with lift up lid and side panels would fit the bill.

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Reply By: rumpig - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:54

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:54

Things like pot belly stoves such as your OzPigs would meet the requirements, you can buy cheap knock off versions of similar through the likes of 4wd Supercentre (can't moment on quality though). Manufactured fuels also include things like sawdust logs and compressed newspaper logs etc, not just heatbeads.

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Follow Up By: Brown Hornet - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:00

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:00

Just sitting in the car park of 4wd Supa Centre now, will go back in for a look! Great tip on manufactured fuel too, thx.

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Reply By: Brown Hornet - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:59

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 09:59

I was hoping to be able to take something like a mini rotisserie with enclosed sides and grille on top, it appears it will be a no go.

Mini rotisserie with grille on top

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:16

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:16

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I would think that "mini rotisserie" would satisfy the "enclosed" regulation, using the prescribed fuel.

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Follow Up By: rumpig - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 13:19

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 13:19

You would think if you were using the style unit pictured above for cooking, you’d be unlucky for a Ranger to ping you for that...we used similar there for many years after the ban was introduced, it wasn’t a fire drum as such, it was a “prescribed heating device” (the term they called for) that matched thier wording of thier law...that is, we burnt sawdust logs and heatbeads in it, and it was raised up off the sand to stop it from getting heated by the fire.
The main reasons the fire ban was brought in on Fraser Island was because they were sick of unattended fires setting the island alight, stopping people burying fires with sand that would then burn the feet of the next unsuspecting campers that showed up there, and thirdly to stop pests getting introduced to the island through timber people bought there with them.

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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 14:37

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 14:37

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Hi Rumpig,

Re the restriction that requires milled or processed timber for fuel.

I have been told twice by rangers, far apart and at different times, that this restriction is to enable the rangers to monitor the prohibition of using local natural wood. Whether gathered or felled.
If someone is caught using "natural wood" they are unable to claim that they "brought it from home". Milled wood clearly does not come from the bush.

I have seen parks where the "free woodpile" was stocked entirely with mill offcuts even though fallen wood was in the nearby scrub.

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Follow Up By: Member - William B (The Shire) - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 18:31

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 18:31

Hello,
I have one of those pictured brought by the family as a birthday present.
It is a absolutely beauty to cook with.
Also the coals sit in the bottom of drum and as such would satisfy the enclosed criteria.
As an aside, charcoal is a better fuel for cooking in that style of beasty.
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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:10

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 10:10

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The mean September minimum temperature for Fraser Island is 17 degrees with a maximum of 25 degrees, so I would not expect a need for comfort heating.

For cooking, the regulations would be satisfied with an enclosed cooker such as a Weber using heat beads. However the standard 2-burner LPG camp stoves are very convenient. That is what we use all the time, everywhere, including Fraser.

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Reply By: splits - Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 15:21

Sunday, Mar 10, 2019 at 15:21

We have been using one of these both in the bush and at home for many years. It has always been with a gas ring burner under it but I dare say you could use heat beads as well.MATE

We put a small seasoned camp oven in it for some meals and a large unseasoned one as an oven only. The big one has cooked everything from cakes to pizzas to a roast turkey.

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