Isuzu & canter 4x4 light trucks

Submitted: Monday, May 06, 2019 at 21:15
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G/Day All,
Wondering if anyone could tell me what years I would have to look at for the above to find one with none of them pesky computers in them, last of the mechanically driven engines, I'm sure you guys know know where I'm coming from, I can problem shoot most things on older engines & don't trust a chip that shuts down your transport for stupid things like dust on a sensor etc, would feel far more confident with a vehicle I can fix myself.

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Reply By: Ron N - Monday, May 06, 2019 at 22:03

Monday, May 06, 2019 at 22:03
FSH00 - Around 1997-99 is about the time most of the truck manufacturers went over to electronically-controlled fuel injection.
However, these systems are fairly reliable - it's the ever-increasing amount of electronic systems in the rest of the truck that will cause you more headaches than the electronic injection ever will.

Personally, I'd steer clear of the Canter from after 2003. Mitsubishi Fuso build quality went downhill from 2001 to 2005, when they had Daimler-Chrysler come in as a partner.

D-C at that time were having huge internal power struggles, a lack of vision, and conflicts in culture as a result of trying to merge European and American vehicle production and procedures.

Mitsubishi went downhill under the joint venture known as Mitsubishi Fuso Truck and Bus Corporation, where D-C was a 43% partner.

The MFTBC products suffered with such major build quality and recall problems, Mitsubishi Motors Corp was obliged to transfer ownership of MFTBC to Daimler in 2005, as a result of financial damages imposed upon MMC due to the poor build quality and recall problems related to their products.

Daimler Trucks now own 89% of MFTBC, but they still have their share of problems, not the least of which is their new Daimler DT12 Automated Transmission - which, while it looks great on paper, is providing less-than-stellar performance, as regards reliability.

The old Mitsubishi Fusos were great trucks, up until the start of the D-C joint venture.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Tuesday, May 07, 2019 at 08:31

Tuesday, May 07, 2019 at 08:31
I can attest to what Ron is saying with regard to the later build MFTBC trucks. A mate of mine has had two in the past 6 years, both have had to have the transmission replaced within the first two years of ownership, the second one is due back next week.

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Reply By: mountainman - Tuesday, May 07, 2019 at 16:44

Tuesday, May 07, 2019 at 16:44
Anything with a dpf on it.....
And common rail too...
run away !

Electronic fuel injection no issues

Look at the hino stuff !
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Reply By: Member - FSH00 - Wednesday, May 08, 2019 at 21:29

Wednesday, May 08, 2019 at 21:29
Thanks for the info guys much appreciated, I tried looking on line for historical spec sheets (canter) with no luck, any one have a link or info to where I can find any ?
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Wednesday, May 08, 2019 at 23:13

Wednesday, May 08, 2019 at 23:13
FSH00 - It appears, probably because of the amount of corporate changes at Fuso and Mitsubishi Trucks, that they do not bother to provide historical spec sheets.

As with many manufacturers, there is also the likely attitude that, "we are here to manufacture, sell and provide information on new trucks, not old ones".

However, Isuzu provide historical spec sheets going back to 1974.

Isuzu trucks - historical spec sheets

Be aware that some years listed provide information on only a couple of models.
I presume this is because they only list new models for that particular year.

Thus, for a year that doesn't list a particular model you're looking for, it is listed under the year it was first released.

The first 4x4 Isuzu appears to be the F series in 1988 (FTS, FSS), running on 20 inch wheels only.
The NPR300 4x4, on 16 inch wheels, didn't appear until 1992.

There are some minor errors in the listings, where a 4 cyl engine is listed, when it should be 6 cyl.

Cheers, Ron.
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