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Submitted: Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 09:05
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Hi everyone heading to the Cape in about a week,doing around 10000 ks should I do an oil change up there or would it be ok to wait till I get home I usally change every 5000ks driving a hj60 its a messy job changing the oil any opinion would be great.thanks
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Reply By: Duncan2H - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 10:13

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 10:13
If you do regular 5,000klm changes then dont feel bad about an occasional 10,000klm change. The 2H will be fine. Keep an eye on oil levels if you're using oil between services currently.

Also.. when removing the oil filter on a 2H put a plastic bag up over it just before you finally unscrew it. It contains it all nicely. Much less mess.

Roadside oil changes at remote town dumps are pretty common if you want to stick to your 5,000klm change. There's always empty containers around to catch the oil in and usually a disposal point.
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Follow Up By: john m85 - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 12:57

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 12:57
Thanks Duncon2H for the advice I will try the plastic bag next time I don't use any oil between changes just put a new motor in the old girl its only done 50000ks got about 550000ks out of the original motor
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (Clare SA) - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 14:11

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 14:11
Hi John

Like you, I get my vehicle serviced every 5 K.

We got our Prado serviced when we got back to Cairns.


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Reply By: RMD - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 15:31

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 15:31
John m885
You own the vehicle and will know how dark or carbon contaminated the oil is after 5000km. ie, you assess that. The oil itself can easily go to 10,000km depending on the amount of carbon content it receives during normal use. Not being a turbo it will burn more dirty than is now the normal situation.
Is the oil normally heavily laden with carbon at 5000km? If the oil is a good quality oil, they vary enormously in quality and ring sealing ability, then the 5000km changing may be unnecessary and if clean at the start of the trip 10,000km will do.

Remember the oils job IS to collect the carbon and hold it in suspension in the oil so it will drain out at change time. Just because the oil may be/go black a little, doesn't mean it needs changing in the short term. If the oil you use is, or has been, leaving residual scum inside the engine, visible on parts as a coating of black and not being removed with the oil at drain time to relatively clean surfaces, then 5000km may be needed.
I owned a HJ61 for 25 years, although turboed, it never received an oil change before 10,000km. unnecessary and wasting money. Engine was always clean surfaced inside, slight discolour of course.
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Follow Up By: john m85 - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 18:23

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 18:23
Thanks for the information about the oil I change mine every 5000 I might start going evey 10,000 and see how it goes.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 18:45

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 18:45
Waste of oil changing at 5000klms. Waste of money as well. ALL reputable oils will easily do 15000klms. Correct oil grade, good filter, regular changes as per service book and all will be well. Installing a catch can will also assist oil cleanliness. I also have the egr blocked off in my vehicle and the oil is still honey brown after 7000klms. If oil was $15 a litre people would definitely not be changing every 5000klms ...and their motor would be no worse off for it..
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 20:10

Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 20:10
Big fish
An HJ60 won't/can't use a catch can. What enters the intake isn't going to dirty the oil in the sump. He also has no EGR so no soot through that path. In your case, any decent well operating CRD turbo shouldn't dirty the oil very quickly at all.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, May 31, 2019 at 07:31

Friday, May 31, 2019 at 07:31
Agree. Must of had a seniors moment with my suggestion re catch can and egr block for the older tojo. I,ve seen many crd engines quickly turn the oil black. My mates Nissan and wives toyota (both diesels) would turn the oil very black within a 1000klms. Since blocking egr and fitting catch cans the oil stays clean for at least 3-4oooklms. This has also been the case as reported on the motoring forum I am a member of. You only have to look at the intake manifolds that were almost blocked at between 60 and 100,000klms. Keeping this crap out of the oil means it just stays cleaner longer.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Friday, May 31, 2019 at 08:58

Friday, May 31, 2019 at 08:58
If any CRD engine in these utes sized vehicle turns the oil dirty in 1000km then something is drastically wrong with the engine system or the oil being used is utter rubbish. Most stay clean until 5000km even with no EGR restrict and catch can use. A CRD engine burns much cleaner than pre CRD can achieve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, May 31, 2019 at 09:08

Friday, May 31, 2019 at 09:08
I know you consider yourself the guru of all things mechanical but your not...
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Follow Up By: RMD - Saturday, Jun 01, 2019 at 17:08

Saturday, Jun 01, 2019 at 17:08
Bigfish
Just how would you know what I know. You just can't accept someone who may have some idea. No one knows everything but some of the statements on here are so way off at times and lack reality and more importantly mislead people who are trying to find out what is real. That isn't helping anyone.

I can see the dipstick through the oil on the stick after 5000km in my Dmax. Why would a CRD engine blacken is straight away if everything is correct???????? As Pauline says, Please explain!
Only if the oil is rubbish or the previous lack of service meant there was carbon laden internals would the oil discolour straight away.
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Reply By: Member - nickb "boab" - Friday, May 31, 2019 at 06:02

Friday, May 31, 2019 at 06:02
Presumably you would do a service before you left on your trip ... I would agree with bigfish waste of oil changing every 5000 ks bad enough having to do it every 10000 ks...
When we did the cape leaving from SA it it was about 12000 ks and waited till we returned besides what would you do with your old stinking black oil yuck last thing I would want to carry .
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Follow Up By: john m85 - Friday, May 31, 2019 at 07:55

Friday, May 31, 2019 at 07:55
You are right Nick I will do it when I get home.thanks
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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Saturday, Jun 01, 2019 at 09:41

Saturday, Jun 01, 2019 at 09:41
Start with a clean oil and filter , do the trip , then change oil and filter if needed when you get back .....
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Reply By: Gaz@Midge Point. - Saturday, Jun 01, 2019 at 18:45

Saturday, Jun 01, 2019 at 18:45
Oil’s cheap, compared to engine repairs. Stick to your 5k oil changes. My 20 year old 105 series 1HZ has had 5k oil changes all its life, no problems yet and don’t burn oil.
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Reply By: Batt's - Tuesday, Jun 04, 2019 at 15:55

Tuesday, Jun 04, 2019 at 15:55
If your not going to change the oil I would at least replace the oil filter when due it can't hurt. You can always look into oil bypass kits for the long term.

What about the fuel filter the old paper type if you still have it need replacing every 5.000km unless you have replaced it with a better quality filter set up to extent it to approx 20,000km or so for eg. When I had a couple of 60ser yrs ago I went to 6,000km then it shut down lucky I carried a spare filter.

Also do you drain the water trap next to the fuel tank when you change the fuel filter as they clog up with sludge. They need to flow well when draining if it only trickles out replace it asap. I was shut down on a beach when mine clogged up that's when I found they existed. Again because I carry spare gear I had some fuel hose and was able to bypass it till I bought a new one.
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