How best to clean your diesel fuel system?
Submitted: Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 06:36
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Quartzy
Gday All,
I am going to replace my diesel injectors shortly (1997 2.8 GQ TD 113K km) but i want some ideas on the best way to fully flush/clean the entire fuel system. I have recently replaced the fuel filter and noticed quite a bit of red bulldust - fine stuff stuck in the old filter - so i want to clean out the entire fuel system from tank to injection pump to prepare for the new injectors shortly.
Heres my thoughts on it - please feel free to correct me or suggest otherwise:
1. Drop fuel tank - inspect and flush clean.
2. Replace fuel filter
3. Inspect fine gauze / mesh screen in the injectore pump banjo and clean as per manual says - replace banjo with new washers ($2 from Nissan!)
4. Now i can replace my injectors with clean ones from
United Fuel Injection
The reason why i want to do an entire system clean is that there is a lot of red bulldust clinging to the INSIDE of the fuel filler. And i am assuming that there is more down the bottom of the tank hence the stuff caught in the previous filter.
Some hints on how best to rinse a fuel tank would be great too.
Cheers All
Quartzy
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:23
Friday, Jun 18, 2004 at 11:23
Remove fuel tank and flush with Petrol.. Leave to dry (even 500ml of petrol in 95ltr diesel tank wont hurt)
While tank is off, remove hoses from filter, or leave on to see how much comes out... Blow out lines with Compressed Air
Take out and
check IF your car has the Gauze filter then leave it on
the bench.. Dont replace the gauze filter. Many GQ has stopped cause they are blocked.
Then try new injectors. While your at it, why not get fuel pump sorted out too get all the crap sorted out in 1 go..?
Hi Flo are good for injectors too
Good luck
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Follow Up By: Quartzy - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 00:59
Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 00:59
Cheers Truckster!
What treatment would you recommend for the fuel pump?
How would i go about it?
Also, I'll
check out Hi Flo.
Regards
Quartzy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 01:59
Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 01:59
getting it re-conditioned, or serviced... it isnt cheap, but it will give you the most out of your donk
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Reply By: Quartzy - Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 00:57
Saturday, Jun 19, 2004 at 00:57
Cheers Guys for helping me with your responses.
To answer a few questions: the reason i am wanting to replace injectors is that at idle they appear to be injecting too much diesel into the engine - very smelly and unburnt diesel smoke appears after leaving car for any period at idle. Also, on startup they 'splut' for about 6 - 10 seconds until operating normally. I dont know if this is related with injectors but my fuel consumption is around 14.5 per 100km or even just above 15 l per 100km - dont forget i'm in the country with no traffic lights and big open runs @ 100km/ph unloaded. It seems too much. Around town @ 60 kph i can get 13 l per 100km for a tank.
The red dust is exactly that - i got some residue out of the old filter and dried it out - it was good old North west red fine dust! My car has had its entire existence up here in North of WA so I'm sure some of the dust has worked its way in to the system - perhaps through the breather near the fuel spout.
I think once i have cleaned the system i will use an additive/cleaner.
Cheers
Quartzy
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Reply By: Jonoc - Tuesday, Jun 22, 2004 at 21:30
Tuesday, Jun 22, 2004 at 21:30
Okay , I haven't found much in the journals , so i have sent an e-mail to the guy in charge of environmental microbiology at uni.
However, I am a bit sceptical about that artical.
Any microbe (that will grow) can grow rapidly "under the right" conditions, but the conditions in a diesel fuel tank will never be a really nice place to grow and i doubt anything would come close to having a doubling time of 20mins in a diesel fuel tank which would be a very very harsh environment. Hell, E. coli struggles to have a doubling time of 40 minutes at 20C in a specialised growing medium.
secondly, i do not think algae would grow at all in a fuel tank (i could be wrong)
Those picture's could just be rust, unless the gunk from the fuel filter grows in culture or you look at the stuff under a microscope it is fairly difficult to say it is anything.
Hate to be a sceptic, but thats my two bobs worth. I could be wrong though as anything can happen in the wacky world of bacteria.
cheers
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Follow Up By: Jonoc - Thursday, Jun 24, 2004 at 01:19
Thursday, Jun 24, 2004 at 01:19
Ok , the word from the environmental microbiologist is.
Most fuel contamination problems are caused by Cladosporium resinae a type of fungi (like beer makers yeast or common bread yeast). Most (almost all) diesel is contaminated with microbes , but they pose almost no problem unless fuel is saturated with water and nutrience(causes its own problems).
Algae is not a problem unless your in the habit of exposing your fuel tank to sunlight for extended periods of time.
Microbial contamination of fuel tanks is only a problem in fuel that has a very high water content. If the water content is high enough doubling time can be around 20mins for some bacteria depending on many factors
From what i understand the problem is most often associated with crappy watery fuel which may cause more problems in itself.
Microbial contamination can be limited by using good fuel.
Interesting note is that most of the engine problems associated with microbes in the fuel are their bye products cause increased corrosion and blistering of some of the fittings in the fuel system. Secondary problems are with blockages.
more information
http://members.shaw.ca/diesel-duck/library/tech_notes/microbial_contamination.htmhttp://www.fueldoctors.com.au/fuel.htm
If you have anymore information please send it to me as this area fascinates me.
cheers Jono C
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Follow Up By: Peter O - Thursday, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:13
Thursday, Jun 24, 2004 at 10:13
Hi Jonoc,
I agree with your
views regarding water in diesel, that is what the article mentioned. It also states that the only place that the algae grows is in the fuel water interface which according to the microbiologist you spoke to is spot on.
My point regarding the De-Bug unit is that it costs around $400 to fit depending on the size of the unit recommended for the vehicle. considering the amount of money we spend setting up our rigs it is cheap insurance for us because we never know what type of diesel we are buying at any service station around the country.
cheers Peter
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