Check your wheels

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 15:34
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Hi all, For your safety check your wheels. See the attached photo, I found two cracked wheels on my van yesterday. They are 16 x 8, they are rated at 1500 kg each the van is a single axle atm 2500kg and not overweight. I do travel on dirt roads National Parks etc, I do lower my tyre pressures when the roads are rough. The van is five years old and well maintained. This could have been catastrophic, have a good look at your wheels, the cracks will be only hairline to start with. When I inspected my other wheel I found hairline crack in it also.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 15:54

Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 15:54
I had one of mine from the D-Max crack, never been off road.

Luckily Isuzu came good and replaced it


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Follow Up By: ken triton - Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 15:58

Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 15:58
Thank you for the reply I have the same wheels on my Dmax, just went and checked them, all appear ok
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 17:51

Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 17:51
It was picked up when I had it in for a wheel alignment otherwise I probably would not have noticed.

Better go out and check the rest.
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Reply By: Ron N - Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 22:48

Wednesday, Aug 21, 2019 at 22:48
Hi Ken - What is the brand name of the wheel, and do you know where it's made?

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: ken triton - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:30

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:30
Hi Ron
They are Allied Wheels, not sure of where they are manufactured.
Regards
Ken
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 12:00

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 12:00
Ken, Allied state they are a "manufacturer and wholesale distributor" of alloy wheels.
That probably means they manufacture a small amount locally, and import quite a bit of their wheel line.

Have you called Allied and mentioned this problem to them? The wheel cracking problem is a major safety issue, and they need to be advised of it - if they don't already know.

There is no sign of your style of rims listed anywhere on their website or in their catalogue, leading me to believe they imported these rims, then discontinued importation, when repeated fracture problems raised their ugly head.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: ken triton - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 13:49

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 13:49
Hi Ron, Yes I called and emailed Allied and yes it was one of there wheels. They did speak to the warranty department and suggested I would need to place a claim via the Caravan manufacturer as they were the ones that purchased the wheels. Problem is that was Elite who no longer exist. I have explained that to Allied and they said they would look into it but no response as yet. The major reason for my post was to alert fellow travelers of my major safety concerns, so I hope at least a few people have checked their wheels. I will rectify the problem and make my van safe, with or without the help of Allied. Thanks for your interest Ron
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Follow Up By: ken triton - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 16:44

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 16:44
Good news Allied are replacing the wheels free of charge
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Reply By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 19:20

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 19:20
G`day Ken,

From your first line, " For your safety check your wheels. " well mate if you check them and find that they are alloy the first safety move would be to change them for steel. This is particularly important of you intend to travel "Off Road".
I have seen many alloy wheels cracked or broken from being driven on roads that they are not suitable for and then having to be thrown away, where as I personally have dented steel wheels on several occasions and then been able to knock the dent out with a mash hammer without even taking the wheel off the vehicle.

Just my opinion only.

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Follow Up By: ken triton - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 19:47

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 19:47
Thanks Scrubby, I was always a bit sceptical when the van came with alloy rims and I think you're correct. Interesting though Bushtracker and other reputable off road vans fit alloy wheels these days. I wonder where the alloys they fit are manufactured.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 20:38

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 20:38
I'm with Scrubby on this one. I've seen many Alloy wheels fractured on vehicles that have been in crashes. They usually fracture through the spokes.

But a steel wheel fracture is very uncommon, they have much more rim support because they don't have spokes - and also because steel will bend a lot more than alloy, before it breaks.

You will also find that there are standard-duty steel rims, and heavy duty steel rims.
The heavy duty steel rims have a centre made from thicker metal.

I was already aware of this feature from the old HQ-WB Holdens, whereby the HQ-WB 1-Tonner wheels use thicker steel in the rim centre - but I was recently surprised to find, when commencing the construction of a 4500kg tandem plant trailer, utilising Landcruiser steel wheels, that the Landcruiser also has standard duty, and heavy duty steel wheels (in the 5 stud split rim versions, anyway).

If you examine the Landcruiser 5 stud steel wheels, you'll find the ones with 16 holes in the centre section are the standard rim, and the ones with 12 holes in the centre section, are the heavy-duty wheel, with a slightly thicker centre.

Cheers, Ron.
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Follow Up By: Member - Scrubby (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 21:48

Thursday, Aug 22, 2019 at 21:48
Ken you mentioned that some off road vans have alloy wheels.
I sometimes have a bit of a warm discussion at "outdoor & leisure" shows when I ask the salesman why the off road camper trailers have expensive looking alloy wheels fitted with mud tread tyres, I am yet to get a reply admitting that it`s a sales gimmick because they look good .

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Follow Up By: rumpig - Friday, Aug 23, 2019 at 06:55

Friday, Aug 23, 2019 at 06:55
10 years of outback touring in a loaded up 105 series Cruiser to places such as Cape York, Savannah Way through the Gulf, Old Ghan Line, across The Simpson etc etc, all done on the same alloy rims over some horrendous corrugated roads at times...can’t see an issue with running alloys myself. Yes some people break them, but some people can destroy steel rims also.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Aug 24, 2019 at 07:14

Saturday, Aug 24, 2019 at 07:14
Interesting the comments about alloy rims.
I know one of the Australian rim companies that specifically supplies the mines with alloy rims ( cant remember if they are Australian made or not) for the Landcruisers, I questioned him on why and he said they can achieve a higher load rating than they can get with the steel ones

There is nothing wrong with alloy rims, it is the quality of the product that is more important

There are plenty of rubbish steel rims for sale just like there are alloy ones.
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Follow Up By: axle - Saturday, Aug 24, 2019 at 14:44

Saturday, Aug 24, 2019 at 14:44
It is another interesting subject,....Theres plenty of trucks running around with alloy rims ,haven't heard of any real problems.


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Saturday, Aug 24, 2019 at 17:43

Saturday, Aug 24, 2019 at 17:43
There's rims built to do a job, and rims built to a price - that's the major difference between truck rims, and caravan/camper/trailer/car rims.

Cheers, Ron.
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Reply By: swampy - Saturday, Sep 14, 2019 at 07:10

Saturday, Sep 14, 2019 at 07:10
hi
Allied rims = asia made
Very few rims are made in ozzy .Only specialists . It would be fairly accurate to say no big maker exists anymore. Many brands even 30years ago were imported .
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