Mercedes G Professional cab chassis

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 13, 2019 at 16:25
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Has anyone heard or had experience with the Mercedes G Pro cab chassis?

Understand without a load they would be harsh according to the videos. However the carrying capacity looks appealing at + 2 ton.
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Wednesday, Nov 13, 2019 at 18:24

Wednesday, Nov 13, 2019 at 18:24
My friend has a G Wagen Pro. He loves / hates it.

It goes anywhere and is a nice truck.

The downsides according to him are
Very noisy in the cabin. Have to shout at any decent speed. ( apparently there is lots of noise coming from the bonnet area through the vents/windscreen)
Massive turning circle. Massive.
Fuel economy goes out the window at speeds above 90kmph. He travels on the freeways at 95 now.
Crappy radio with 1 speaker is 1970's cortina grade.
Wind up windows.
It has a few electrical gremlins. Lights blow frequently
Headlights are like candles.
Mercedez Benz is very expensive and a nightmare to deal with. They know nothing about the vehicle.

Basically it is as expected and very similar to a 70 series in some ways.
Awful on road, great off-road. He is going to sell it when the lease is up. It would be a great buy if you know what you are getting into . As you say the payload looks great.

BE, if you only want it for off-road 95% of the time it is built for the purpose. I'm a bit jealous if the truth be known.
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Follow Up By: mechpete - Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:10

Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:10
they have reinvented a 30 yr old vehicle
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Reply By: Member - Vince M (NSW) - Wednesday, Nov 13, 2019 at 20:41

Wednesday, Nov 13, 2019 at 20:41
The army have all sorts of electrical problems due to the multiple computers & need to have a full battery capacity or they just shut down & struggle to get around any bends & you get used to backing up & having a 2nd attempt in the bush
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Reply By: Ozhumvee - Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 06:39

Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 06:39
Talk to many of the drivers from the govt entities using them, parks, forests etc and most of them would rather have a Toyota any day. Most reckon a Toyota goes much better on the road, better off road unless the country is flat, in steep gnarly stuff they are a handful especially if narrow and /or need to manouvre a lot .
The defence force blokes just cry, apparently the Mercs are not to be taken overseas and are not to be used for any offensive/defensive or even peacekeeping stuff due to problems with electronics rendering the vehicle useless at any time. Makes you wonder who got the kickback for that contract!
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Follow Up By: Member - Vince M (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:03

Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:03
My understanding of the supply of the Merc G wagons 4x4 & 6x6 to Australian defence is that it was the only vehicle with a Nato number & they must be bad if they would rather drive a Landrover priante

part of the Ausie spec years ago was that all vehicles must have 3 seats in the cab, Not sure now, that's why no OKA's, in the 80's there were 2 at Campbell barracks WA (SASR) & they loved them. Don't know what happened to them or if they were on trial
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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:25

Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:25
@ Ozhumvee "apparently the Mercs are not to be taken overseas and are not to be used for any offensive/defensive or even peacekeeping stuff due to problems with electronics rendering the vehicle useless.

That is not quite true - they may or may not have problems with their electronic but that is not the reason they are not used for offensive/defensive operations. Simply that is not their role - they are a support vehicle and these vehicles and the later use of Perenties meant that they were just too unsafe to use in the modern battle field - this change occured some years back where it was found the perenties, being soft skinned were too exposed to enemy actions and were withdrawn from these roles - well before the G wagen was even being considered.

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Reply By: Member - Trouper (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:13

Thursday, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:13
I wouldn't touch them, as usual everything the Germans do is over engineered and over computerised. Not good for the Army (having been there for 18 years)they need simple equipment that is reliable and fixable in the bush. They should have stuck with the Landrover Perenti.

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Reply By: Ron N - Sunday, Nov 17, 2019 at 13:48

Sunday, Nov 17, 2019 at 13:48
Everything you buy from Europe has the following features as standard;

1. The "European Tax", whereby every single thing you purchase from Europe appears to have around 50% in taxes added to the purchase cost. This includes all parts and accessories.

2. The desire to have every feature imaginable, aided by the greatest complexity in design, aided by electronic and electrical devices of every type and sort available.
Of course, very few of those electrical components are available locally, they all have to be imported at excessive parts cost, and added freight cost.

3. The design is predicated on the fact that nowhere in Europe are you more than 30kms from a major service centre, with a slew of highly qualified technicians on hand - and they are all multilingual.
Compare that scenario with Australia, where you can rapidly be 1000kms from any service centre, and from any factory technician, with technical support. And the mechanic you do find, generally has about as much experience with the repair of your vehicle as you do.

4. European vehicles are built for European conditions, with features such as heated seats, and designed for snow and fog and high altitudes, and Air Cons designed to cope with occasional bouts of 35 to 38 deg temperatures.
They rarely see dust in Europe, it's probably banned by some EU law, originating from Brussels.
Compare that with Australia, where snow is quite rare, the average elevation is 330 metres, and dust and 40+ deg heat is a constant fact of life, in 90% of the country.

5. There are rarely any rough, unsealed, badly-corrugated roads in Europe. Any that exist, are about 3 kms long.
Compare that with Australia, where you can drive on bone-shaking, unsealed, badly-corrugated roads for days, hundreds and hundreds of kms at a time. This is a true test of a vehicle, particularly when you get 40 deg heat with it, as well.

6. Buy a "Brand Name" from Europe and you automatically incur a major financial penalty, just for the sheer pleasure of driving with a "Brand Name" badge on the bonnet.

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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Sunday, Nov 17, 2019 at 14:23

Sunday, Nov 17, 2019 at 14:23
Sounds exactly like a Toyota Landcruiser except no one buys them in Europe and sales are failing in the US where they will be discontinued soon.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Sunday, Nov 17, 2019 at 14:36

Sunday, Nov 17, 2019 at 14:36
The difference with Toyota Landcruisers is that they are everywhere, everyone knows how to fix them, and the "premium pricing" you pay to own them, is returned to you in used vehicle value - and you can sell them in heartbeat. Toyota must be doing something half right.

Compare that to values for used European vehicles, where no-one wants them when they reach 100,000kms, because the 100,000km factory service cost, runs to nearly the residual value of the vehicle.

Not to mention the myriads of special tools you need to work on European equipment.
With BMW, you can't even utilise a standard OBD code reader, it has to be a special BMW OBD code reader.
I would imagine Mercedes aren't a lot different.

Wifes good friend (wealthy woman in her 60's) bought a Mercedes hatchback, kept it for 2 years on city driving, and reckoned it spent at least 6 mths of that 2 years in the Mercedes dealership with something wrong with it, every time.
She got thoroughly fed up with it, sold it, bought a Hyundai hatchback, and is over the moon with the Hyundai that just keeps going, and which came with a 7 yr warranty.

The day I see a European vehicle with a 7 yr warranty, will be a wondrous day.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Nov 19, 2019 at 17:51

Tuesday, Nov 19, 2019 at 17:51
Ron Porsche offer a 10 year factory warranty for its vehicles , you do have to pay for it though
Sure a Hyundai is a cheap and reliable vehicle but it is in no way of the caliber of the German makes. Yes we pay a premium for them due to our small economy but they are well made
Warranty is not a measure of quality but more a marketing tool to sell product. Look at power tools for instance and the best warranties are offered by the brands at bottom end of the quality market.
Same goes for many products were warranty is used as s tool to entice a consumer to purchase their product

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