Which HF radio carrier?

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Which HF radio carrier is the best/cheapest/value for money for occasional use? thanks
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Reply By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:12

Thursday, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:12
Here is my take Norm. Some of this information may be a little old.

VKS737
Very large network. Lots of members, ( 3000?) Can get very busy in winter, great listening. Easy to get weather, local conditions etc. Good Skeds
Quite structured. Not very flexible, expensive, especially for things like phone calls etc

HF Radio Club.
Very clubby, seems to be dominated by a handful of people who know each other very well. It's like sitting next to old friends talking about something you have no interest in at the pub. You can't and don't want to get a word in.
Quite innovative. Less expensive than VKS but fewer base stations. Very helpful. Only 4 base stations.

HF OZ / Radtel
Never heard many users on this. No Skeds.

Reids
Many channels Expensive calls. Mainly for phone calls from what I can figure out. I don't think they have skeds.

HF touring club.
I think this is a spin off of the HF radio club. Inexpensive. Don't know much else.

Austravel Safety network.
Seems innovative, they have a few skeds and 6 base stations. Inexpensive, $80 plus $40 for phone calls GPS logging etc. Phone calls are free once you pay for acccess. Less busy than VKS 737 Supports emergency call buitton on most radios. Like VKS they will tell you conditions like weather etc if you ask.

IMHO the Austravel Safety network offers the best compromise of price, critical mass of users and services.

VKS is the best for lots of base stations and users but it is rigid and it can be hard to get a word into the skeds in winter at times.

It would be interesting to see what others think too. I think all offer things like SMS / messaging and phone interconnects these days. Also some like HF radio club and Austravel offer location tracking. All may do that these days too.





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Follow Up By: Nifty07 - Thursday, Feb 20, 2020 at 21:39

Thursday, Feb 20, 2020 at 21:39
I was a member of VKS and you are correct, it is large and does not offer any facilities such as GPS logging. They do have lots of bases and run skeds where you call them on the radio but that does not get through to family/friends.

I then tried the other groups you mentioned and ended up with HFRC because they are the only network to offer fully implanted ALE/CALM, have GPS logging, radio to mobile phone text messaging, email and you can make a phone call.

All the groups run skeds where you call into an operator, provide telephone interconnect and they all cost about the same to join.

VKS is the only network not offering GPS, mobile phone texting or email services.

What convinced me was the fully implemented ALE/CALM. This is where the radio works out the best base and channel to use. In the past two years of extensive travels this makes it so much easier and reliable to be able to send you GPS, send SMS or email and make phone calls. Very glad I joined the HFRC.
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Reply By: maurice b - Thursday, Jan 02, 2020 at 12:13

Thursday, Jan 02, 2020 at 12:13
Hi Tony and interested members . Its called the Australian HF Touring club which i am a member of. It has the use of 19 frequencies and 5 bases to chat from member to member, log your coordinates, send and receive SMS and emails or place phone calls, automated news and weather reports. You can read more here.
https://aussiehf.club/theclub.html andhttps://aussiehf.club/services.html. Having the free phone calls is a big bonus providing your set is capable.
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Follow Up By: Member - Boobook - Thursday, Jan 02, 2020 at 14:03

Thursday, Jan 02, 2020 at 14:03
Thanks Maurice. Looks good. Similar to Austravelers.

Good point about needing Telcall as well as selcall on the radio.
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Follow Up By: Nifty07 - Thursday, Feb 20, 2020 at 21:45

Thursday, Feb 20, 2020 at 21:45
This group started by causing a split with another group and stole their base equipment to get their network working. Police got involved and they had to return the gear. Recently the licensing authority ACMA conducted an audit and turned their bases off till they got them licensed. Have a look at the ACMA database and you will see they made a heap of changed to their Hunter and Sapphire licenses late last year.

https://web.acma.gov.au/rrl/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=137668
https://web.acma.gov.au/rrl/site_search.site_lookup?pSITE_ID=10014152

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Reply By: maurice b - Monday, Jan 06, 2020 at 21:42

Monday, Jan 06, 2020 at 21:42
A few days ago the above mentioned Australian HF Touring Club instituted an emergency response protocol that members may use when they are in distress or need urgent assistance and have no access to the established phone systems. Members with gps or selcall capability's can simply send a GPS or selcall to a certain number on any and all of the Clubs 80 channels (83, 82, 81 and 80) untill a revertive is received from any base Aust wide.
Once picked up by a base the AHFTC will be alerted and we will attempt to establish contact with you to determine the nature of assistance required.
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Follow Up By: Nifty07 - Thursday, Feb 20, 2020 at 21:50

Thursday, Feb 20, 2020 at 21:50
This is why it is important to use a network with ALE/CALM full compatibility. You press the red emergency button on the mic and the radio will find the best base and channel to call the RFDS.

You don't need to selcall a certain number on specific channels as described above until you hear a revertive from the base. That is so out of date, time consuming and unless you are very experienced in using the radio it is very difficult to use.

Even a person who had never used a radio can make an emergency call on the HFRC network simply by pressing the red button on the mic. The radio does the rest and the next thing you have the RFDS talking to you. Fantastic service and works very well.

More info here:https://hfradioclub.com.au/
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