1HDTFE Injector Lifespan?
Submitted: Wednesday, Feb 05, 2020 at 08:51
ThreadID:
139640
Views:
18344
Replies:
11
FollowUps:
3
This Thread has been Archived
Jock H
Hey all,
New member, previously had Landrovers for many years and was quite active on AULRO.
Made the switch to a HDJ79 a few years ago and haven't looked back. I'm just about to clock over 300,000 and have decided to keep it and give it a birthday, rather than switch to a V8.
I understand injectors vary greatly in different models and makes, but just wondering what sort of life you've got out of your 1HDTFE injectors before either failure or
test and rebuild?
Thanks
Jock
Reply By: swampy - Wednesday, Feb 05, 2020 at 22:41
Wednesday, Feb 05, 2020 at 22:41
Hi
Injectors and pumps should always be checked thru out there lives . Service history becomes very important . Direct injection injectors wear out due to the high pressures. This causes poor atomisation, irregular spray pattern and differing amounts of fuel.
I would
check fuel pump at any time front engine work takes place eg 200,000km .
Injectors every 100,000km
Not a Toyota but my
Ranger diesel had injectors at 70,000km and a new one was faulty
Injector pump was checked as
well. prior to repairs vehicle was getting 300km to a tank.
I own a D4D Hilux 2011 the injectors are as noisey as hell = poor quality and typical
Basically DID or old school pumps and injectors need checking .
I change fuel filters every 10,000--15,000km . Suprisingly the filter paper is very black for the low km.
AnswerID:
629915
Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Feb 05, 2020 at 23:34
Wednesday, Feb 05, 2020 at 23:34
Jock
Purely for reliability and fuel economy at 300,000 the injectors should be checked/replaced. It all depends on how many cold starts in 300,000km as to the life of the injector nozzles and filtration. Yours can't be compared to CRD diesels like Hilux or
Ranger as it isn't the same. A mate of
mine has a 100 series with 1HDfte engine and it has done
well over 200,000km with no perceptible change to performance or economy. Mostly does 3 ton van towing, so longer hot distances usually/most of it's life.
Yes filtration is important, but black in a filter is staining from microscopic bituminous particles in the fuel going through it. Always will do that, more with some diesel fuels than others. Don't ask me which ones though. Some black can be algae growth present in tank and passing to filter. Always use a bug killer periodically to treat the fuel/tank/system.
AnswerID:
629916
Reply By: Member - psroberts - Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 07:21
Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 07:21
I agree with the above - it is also due for new injector lines ! You will be amazed at the difference that a good pump rebuild and rebuilt injectors make - not cheap will be about $1500 for the injectors and $2500 for the pump!
Worth it against depreciation of a new car - you will also be blown away by the value of your 79!
AnswerID:
629919
Reply By: Jock H - Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 08:35
Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 08:35
Thanks for the replies, I more than mechanically minded so understand the ins and outs. I was just interested to know, from those with experience of these motors, how many kms have you seen on these fuel systems?
I'm the second owner and I know the previous owner racked up most of his kms towing across the Nullabor, 80% of my work is similar - long hot runs. At this point in time I'm struggling to justify in excess of $5000 ($1500 injectors, $2900 pump plus other consumables) for a motor that is running perfectly fine. Though the old 5 P rule comes in to play there too
I replaced injector lines last service so all good there. I was reading the service manual the other day and interestingly the book states it's only the HDJ100 that has the 150,000km interval on injector lines
AnswerID:
629920
Reply By: swampy - Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 11:06
Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 11:06
Hi
All injectors and pumps need service thru out there lives ,no exceptions . No difference between DID or old school . Pumps and injectors still wear out and deliver the wrong amount and poor quality spray patterns .
When there in for service the pumps and injectors are bench tested first . Many occasions some donot require o/haul ,some do .
If u want a huge amount of
miles from your diesel ,its what you do .
AnswerID:
629921
Reply By: Pepper - Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 15:56
Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 15:56
My 2002 4.2 factory turbo 100 series manual had 455000 klm when i sold it last november...still had original injectors that had never been serviced in any way .
Car was performing as
well as ever , mainly used for towing 3 tonne van around australia..didnt blow smoke of any kind.
AnswerID:
629922
Follow Up By: Jock H - Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 16:15
Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 16:15
Thanks mate, exactly the sort of reply I was chasing
FollowupID:
905077
Reply By: swampy - Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 23:34
Thursday, Feb 06, 2020 at 23:34
Hi
for maximum reliability economy power and throttle response injectors and pump should be checked .
Offroad equipment is done to get maximum reliability ..simples . No service schedule was done because there mates talked to there mates at the pub who new a fella who had one .
Parts failure with these items occurs slowly . Only noticeable when driving when the parts are stuffed Pick up it up early and all is
well .
AnswerID:
629926
Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 07:11
Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 07:11
Hi Jock H,
Have you been on the LCOOL website? If you do not know about it, it is the Landcruisers Owners On Line. There are various sections for specific Landcruiser series. You may find the answers you are looking for on there.
Macca.
AnswerID:
629927
Follow Up By: Jock H - Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:45
Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:45
Thanks, I'll
check it out
FollowupID:
905082
Reply By: Member - DOZER - Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 07:57
Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 07:57
Keep your eye on economy and smoke, when these change, start thinking about injecters
AnswerID:
629928
Reply By: Member - Harry C - Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:19
Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:19
I have a 2005 model. Had it from new S/C ute 240000 k only had regular service will consistently get 730 - 750 k on one tank of fuel 83-85 ltrs just running around town light.
AnswerID:
629929
Reply By: axle - Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:33
Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:33
Hi Jock,
If you decide to give her the birthday treatment , I would also get the valve shims checked and adjusted, Very important with those engines, the big worry is getting someone that knows what their doing ,not always found at dealerships!
Cheers Axle.
AnswerID:
629930
Follow Up By: Jock H - Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:52
Friday, Feb 07, 2020 at 08:52
Thanks Axle, though I'm under the impression these have screw adjusters?
FollowupID:
905083