100 series turbo diesel tachometer reading

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 09:30
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Can someone tell me what the tachometer revs should be at 100k/h for a100 series turbo diesel, manual gearbox with standard size tyres?
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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:20

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:20
Can't tell you exactly but if in 5th which is an overdrive of about 0.87 and final drive ratio and tyre circumference you can work it out using maths.
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Reply By: kgarn - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:37

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:37
This calculator may help.

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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 14:10

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 14:10
From memory, Bruce, about 2250rpm @ 100kmh.

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:55

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:55
Sounds about right , but if we wanted to get pedantic we would need use a GPS for actual speed over ground as Toyotas have been notorious for the speedo to read 4% higher than actual speed . IE: speedo showing 100 when in fact vehicle doing 96 ... ODO time vs distance varies the opposite ........
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Reply By: Bruce M1 - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 18:38

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 18:38
Thanks for the replies, I have an auto 100 TD and it revs at just under 2000rpm at 100k. A mate bought a manual version last week and it does 2600rpm so I reckoned it has a tacho problem.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 22:09

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 22:09
Not necessarily, I think.

The auto can rev lower because of the torque multiplication in the torque converter. At least, that's how I understand it.

I had a Kia Sorrento manual. Its revs in top gear at 100kph were considerably higher than a workmate's auto version.

Maybe a stretch, but I presume the same logic would apply, regardless of brand.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 22:35

Wednesday, Mar 11, 2020 at 22:35
I too think the manual will rev more than the Auto, cannot compare them. The speed reading is an indicated on the dash not actual. The speedo on both may vary as well. Best to verify the rpm when using a good GPS. It should be the same as the 5th ratio overdrive amount multiplied with the final drive ratio, (which may well be different between auto and manuals) and the distance per rev of the tyres. Or use radius of, axle to ground etc. The calculated ratio of 5th and final drive with actual distance per rev is the most accurate AND it verifies the rev counter as well.
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Follow Up By: Steve in Kakadu - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 09:13

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 09:13
Could also be tyre size as well.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 22:00

Thursday, Mar 12, 2020 at 22:00
The reason for the different engine revs between manual and auto 100 series, is because they have different diff ratios.

100 series Auto - 3.9:1 ratio

100 series Manual - 4.3:1 ratio

The torque converter in an auto effectively locks up at highway speeds, making the auto drivetrain equivalent to a manual drivetrain at those speeds.

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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Sunday, Mar 15, 2020 at 09:00

Sunday, Mar 15, 2020 at 09:00
As Ron has pointed out, diff ratios are different, also I would hazard a guess that the final drive ratios in top gear would also be different.

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Reply By: Member - Roger K (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 14, 2020 at 23:27

Saturday, Mar 14, 2020 at 23:27
My 2006 model (17" rims, manual transmission) shows 2,750 rpm at an indicated 100 kph. From time to time I check the speedo with a GPS and it is near enough to "spot on" in its reading. I therefore doubt there is a problem with the tacho in your friend's vehicle.

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Reply By: Bruce M1 - Sunday, Mar 15, 2020 at 09:20

Sunday, Mar 15, 2020 at 09:20
Thanks everyone for your replies, question answered.

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