DOLLY WHEELS ON VAN?

Submitted: Wednesday, Mar 25, 2020 at 18:39
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G'day, in my short travels today saw what looked like a fairly new van with a set of dolly wheels under it, wasn't a fifth wheeler. Should have taken a pic, but didn't. I thought that dolly wheel vans were illegal? Has there been a rule change? TIA.
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Wednesday, Mar 25, 2020 at 20:07

Wednesday, Mar 25, 2020 at 20:07
G'day John

Do you mean something like this ?

https://www.trailertec.net.au/service/car-dolly-trailers/

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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 06:58

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 06:58
Jim, no, was an integral part of the van. Should have taken a pic or atleast got the name. Just curious as the ball weight etc would be very little. Cheers.

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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:23

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:23
I can remember some time ago someone put a photo up of such a beast he had seen in W.A. Fairly sure it was on this forum as well.
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:27

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:27
Is this the sort you saw?



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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:42

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:42
The sixth wheeler, yes.
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Follow Up By: axle - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:57

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 08:57
Look what s towing it, Just as impressive! ,LOL.


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Follow Up By: Member - Jim S1 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:20

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:20
So it looks like a device to take the load away from the towing hitch. Be interesting to see the legals of this.

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Follow Up By: GarryR - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:40

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:40
Looks like it may have a lock up turntable for reversing similar to the truck setup. Be interesting if it is legal to use with an ordinary car licence, or whether one may be required to obtain a articulated license as per trucking. This type of setup has been in the trucking industry for many years.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:40

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:40
Would it be much different to a dog trailer?
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Follow Up By: GarryR - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:08

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:08
Yes similar to to Dog Trailer. If my memory serves me correctly, they were a Henderson or Hutchinson Dolly made back in the 60's and 70's, and were produced in Melbourne
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Friday, Mar 27, 2020 at 21:18

Friday, Mar 27, 2020 at 21:18
You need an articulated vehicle licence to be able to tow anything with a turntable.
But there are plenty of 4 wheel trailers with turntables, I used to have two fuel tankers (500 gallon - 2250L and 1000 gallon - 4500L) that were turntable-style trailers.

All fitted with brakes and fully legal, provided the tow vehicle had adequate towing capacity. Use to use a Landrover and a 3 tonne truck to tow them.

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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:37

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 09:37
When I worked remote area stuff for Telstra..we also had large vans with the same towing arrangement. Connecting hitch was not as high up as the one pictured. Legal and registered. Heavy duty and used as accommodation and storage.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:44

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 10:44
These were popular back in the 60s when towing a big van with a Holden .

AFAIR there are several around on vintage vans and they are registered.

There is a caravanning mag that used to publish paper but now only electronic which featured quite a few.

The dolly wheels were much smaller and attached to a normal towbar.

Biggest drawback is that the ability to avoid potholes was much reduced.
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Google vintage caravans with dolly wheels and you will see the photos above plus what I am talking about

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Reply By: Jackolux - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:14

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 11:14
Possibly this no idea if its legal
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:25

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 12:25
No, the dolly was under the front of the van, wasn't double like that one.
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Reply By: Keith B2 - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 14:54

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 14:54
Do you mean like this?
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 17:10

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 17:10
no, nothing like that
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Reply By: 9900Eagle - Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 20:07

Thursday, Mar 26, 2020 at 20:07
The dolly will be legal if it complies with the ADR's, it doesn't have to be registered if it is used with the van..

Although they are not common, they have been around for a long, long time.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Friday, Mar 27, 2020 at 22:01

Friday, Mar 27, 2020 at 22:01

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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Friday, Mar 27, 2020 at 22:54

Friday, Mar 27, 2020 at 22:54
Now that is one smart looking unit.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 07:43

Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 07:43
From my very poor memory, van was very similar to that.
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:32

Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:32
I'd love to know how many caravan owners would be able to back that rig, straight into a spot in a caravan park! [:-)

Certainly a lot safer rig to tow - but I'll wager with another axle and spring set, and turntable added to the build, they would be one expensive van!

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:42

Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:42
I am not sure it had a turntable. It might have had steering arms. It certainly had dampers all round.
Certainly not a budget design.
It was at Bad Kissingen 4WD show in 2013.
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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:57

Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:57
It's not a van Ron. It's a "bimobil habitation cabin" Only the Germans. :)
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Follow Up By: Ron N - Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:37

Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:37
Peter, I have yet to see anything that comes out of Germany, as a "budget design" or involve "budget pricing".

The Germans might have lost WW2 militarily, but they sure learnt how to shaft the rest of the world, economically, since 1945.

I read recently, where they are sitting on a cash chest, financial reserve of 400 billion Euros, reputedly available to fix EU economic woes - but apparently the Germans believe no EU country has any economic woes, so the Germans won't release it.

The Bimobil AX 575 had a list price in 2015, of 83,347 Euros, including the German VAT of 19%.

Bimobil AX 575

The article below on the Bimobil 'van states it has a "turntable chassis" (translation needed).

Auto-Presse News - Bimobil AX 575 caravan

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 13:31

Saturday, Mar 28, 2020 at 13:31
Ta. I regret not having stuck my camera underneath now, but there were many vehicles there that caught my attention.
Allrad is the biggest annual 4WD show in Europe. The show itself is nothing special. but the real feature is that thousands of vehicles show up and camp in a paddock nearby for a week.
There is nothing like this in Australia. We went in 2013 and again in 2015.
This is an aerial view of about 3/4 of the camping area in 2015.

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