GVM upgrade opinion

Submitted: Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 13:26
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I am looking at buying a 70 series single cab Landcruiser and upon inspection have found that it has had a gvm upgrade. All properly done with a new compliance plate.
Just after opinions as to the pro's and con's and if there is anything I should be looking out for.
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Reply By: Member - Wildmax - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 13:40

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 13:40
Unless the vehicle is new and you are getting the upgrade done pre-delivery, you will need an engineering certificate which is probably around $700, in addition to the actual work being done - otherwise you won't comply with various States' regulations. And note the upgrade does not change your GCM.
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 14:56

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 14:56
Wildmax, re read the OP, the vehicle already has a GVM upgrade.......
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 15:14

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 15:14
Yep i think have another read
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Reply By: Bushranger1 - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 13:54

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 13:54
G'day,
I have a GVM upgrade & just find it makes the ride a bit harsher.
If I remove the Slideon camper I put 4x20 Litre drums of water up the front of the tray to improve the unladen harsh ride & drop the ride height a little.

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Reply By: Jackolux - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 15:47

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 15:47
I would say its a bonus if the vehicle and price is right , how much weight do you intend carrying
Just make sure the GVM upgrade is actually on the rego papers . I had a Dmax GVM done before first rego but the rego certificate only showed the std GVM , I didn't notice it for over 12 months but was easy fix at Vic Roads , that surprised me simple things at Vic Roads are often not easy .
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Reply By: cruiser 3 - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 16:55

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 16:55
The upgrade is to allow carrying weight in excess of the manufacturer’s recommended weight so I would think any vehicle carrying such weight would be subject to more stress and wear than normal.
If you need the upgrade it would obviously suit you, if you don’t need it then possibly a vehicle that hasn’t been worked so hard may be better suited.
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 17:07

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 17:07
Just because it has a GVM upgrade doesn't mean its been worked any harder than other , it just means the previous owner wanted it legal . How many others do you think are out there carrying the same weight , possibly more without a GVM upgrade or the same Upgrade but no second stage sticker .
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Follow Up By: cruiser 3 - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 09:11

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 09:11
Jacolux, I can’t see why someone would go to the trouble and expense of the upgrade unless they were going to load the vehicle in excess of the standard. Therefore the upgrade is definitely a sign that the vehicle has been worked hard in my opinion.
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 18:21

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 18:21
What I said it may not of been worked any harder than any other vehicle that is still std or had a suspension upgrade to possible to the same specs but just hasn't got the second stage sticker and carry a similar load
believe me there are plenty out there .

My last vehicle a Dmax I had a GVM upgrade done before rego , I didn't carry any more load than I would of if I had the suspension done later with no sticker .

You can have 2 identical vehicle fitted with the same aftermarket suspension , one owner might go the extra few $$$ and get a Second stage sticker the other might not , both carry the same load one is legal the other not .
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 17:26

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 17:26
Easy to reverse if you don't need it or want it.
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Follow Up By: Bushranger1 - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 18:47

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 18:47
G'day Peter,
I was informed if you reverse it in Vic you need to obtain Engineers certificate.
Not that I am planning on reversing mine.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 19:11

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 19:11
Yes, that is true, but not a big deal or big cost if you waned to go that way.
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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 19:19

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 19:19
Why reverse it , you could change the springs , maybe the shocks for a softer ride , it will no longer comply with the upgrade , who would ever know .
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 19:24

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 19:24
"who would ever know ."
Now that is a different question entirely.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 20:04

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 20:04
"Why reverse it , you could change the springs , maybe the shocks for a softer ride , it will no longer comply with the upgrade , who would ever know ."

No-one until an accident, in which case after the investigation the lawyers and the insurance companies will sure know. Especially if there's a fatality.

And then your comprehensive policy with its $20 million public liability indemnity and your compulsory third party insurances will both be worthless.

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Follow Up By: Jackolux - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 20:26

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 20:26
If it wasn't overloaded would it matter , I don't see much difference to all the suspension jobs that get done every day with out any engineering needed .
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Reply By: diver09 Dan - Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 22:27

Monday, Jun 01, 2020 at 22:27
I have 79 series single cab with a Jackson box on the back . Dobinson suspension . Hard without weight but you cant have both .
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Reply By: Mark C9 - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 09:50

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 09:50
You are much better off with the upgraded components. Legally and capacity wise
Depending on the state, a GVM may also include an upgrade in the GCM.
Have a look at the vehicles getting around and 90% are overloaded.
Throw a case of beer into a 200 series and you are probably overloaded.
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Reply By: Pushy - Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 15:30

Tuesday, Jun 02, 2020 at 15:30
Thanks all
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