New Isuzu D-MAX or Mazda BT50?

An Isuzu from Isuzu cannot be badge engineered, it IS UZU from the beginning. The Mazda comes under that though.

It is badge engineered to a Mazda. Identical, except the badges and trim options.

The Hilux has a fair degree of overhang and ugly at the front. The Triton is just plain ugly at front and has a huge overhang, nearly ALL overhang at the rear. It looks like a huge bum in a supermarket aisle. Everyone seems greatly impressed with more power and torque from smaller engines. That means only 1 thing. More highly stressed by fuel pressure and turbo boost to make the extra power and torque. It seems Mazda and Isuzu have again chosen ENGINE LIFE over impressing the easily impressed and hoodwinked sheep.

Its all an opinion though RMD, what everyone owns/drives is always the best, know matter what happens to the thing . These days not so sure about the smaller motor over stressed and not lasting, depends who does the best job building it to cope. If the motor is not working and has abundance of power under normal conditions, then if built properly in every department i cant see why they wont last , eg my 2.5l triton common rail , has done over 200,000ks now with out any problems what so ever, .

Isuzu make brilliant commercial engines, after owning seven excavators all Isuzu powered, and not a problem in tens of thousands of hrs work, is a testament to their durability as far as i'm concerned.

The common rail Isuzu 3.0l is a different beast to the old 3.0l fitted to early Rodeos etc as far as power goes , so it will be interesting to see how they hold up over time.

Cheers Axle.

G'day Axle
Th early Rodeo's had a different engine but later RA7 had same basic engine as now, new ones more refined. injectors different as well. So the RA& and all Dmax and Colorado's RC until the Italian engine model all used the same engine. Don't you think on the scale of ALL those engines, the use of them without screwing more and more torque and power out of them has resulted in a fairly reliable engine? They have held up extremely well over time, 14 years for than variant and in the light trucks too.

For sure RMD, reliability not a issue, BUT! the lack of power in the RA was a issue , so much so that in certain situations they where down right dangerous, From a standing start they had very poor pick up and miserable with a load on. I have driven a couple doing farm duties and they where both the same.

(the early Ra)... My defender ute with the 300tdi would drag them backwards!! .....lol.

Anyway we all have our own opinion ...thank God!

Cheers.

Ahh , here's the truth , no matter what vehicle 'brand' the very moment you buy it it is the 'best' ...you look for that brand and particular vehicle type constantly while driving [ its human nature ] , you learn to 'justify' the purchase and minimise its faults even though there may be many or few [ once again human nature is at play ] then after awhile real rationality may come into play and you realise the NO vehicle is the EXACTLY as described / fit for purpose or what you 'dreamed' of ....Not 1 vehicle does it all , especially in 4x4 format off the showroom floor .....the best one can hope for is that it gets you there and back without costing an arm and a leg metaphorically ...... because then it's the 'best'

Alloy CT
Not exactly, yes people fall in love with vehicles but none are perfect. I didn't think most people regard their make as being the best, some do. What I have is acceptable to me, has limitations but happy enough I haven't got some other brand. Most modern vehicles should do plenty of KM's before requiring rebuilds of any part. If they don't then they aren't reaching even an acceptable level of reliability. No brands mentioned!

Some people like more and more specs and lower pricing, ALL good I suppose but more gear means more trouble and pricing low is sometimes an act of dumping. There is a lot of rubbish which isn't required to make a good vehicle but people are conned from birth to want the pinnacle of what is available.