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Hi all , I'm in the process of changing over vehicles.I have a nw Pajero at moment ,but I have a off road Van on order which will come in around 2.6 T max . Ball weight a bit light on current vehicle , considering Mux or Pajero sport .Opinions appreciated .
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Reply By: wooly0005 - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:24

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:24
LC 200 tows our JB Gator (at 2.6T loaded) around well within its comfort zone. Comfortable and reliable, good dealer network all over Australia.
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Reply By: braincell - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:30

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:30
thanks , yeah they are great but out of my price range .I like my old pajero , I think I can get a towing upgrade to increase the ball weight on a new one .
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Follow Up By: RMD - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:54

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 12:54
Braincell
An MUX x2 or Pajero x 2 = approx price of 1 x LC200. I know many people buy an LC 200 but they are out of most buyers price range. Not sure why people mention LC200 as being an option.
The Pajero doesn't have a chassis where the MUX does. If the MUX already can tow and has the required ball weight rating and you like either, the MUX seems to suits well for you. I know the transmission/drive system is different with more flexibility in the Mitsubishi but most situations can be covered with an MUX. Unless you are going to try and drag 2.6T through heavy mud or up steep hills where traction/grip of tyres is the limiting factor you probably won't need the cruiser. Cruiser might have the edge there.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 13:27

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 13:27
I also would suggest the MUX. They are basically a D-Max but in a wagon version. I've had a D-Max since 2014 and it still seems like a new car.

The MUX is rated to tow 3,000kg, wereas the D-Max is rated at 3,500 kg.

If you go with the MUX, I would suggest that you get a Hayman Reese towbar as the have been some reports of cracked welds on the Isuzu bar.

The Isuzu are renowned for their reliability.
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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 17:12

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 17:12
You cannot get ball weight upgrades - is set by the manufacturer and cannot be changed.
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Follow Up By: wooly0005 - Saturday, Sep 05, 2020 at 00:14

Saturday, Sep 05, 2020 at 00:14
Sorry Braincell, you didn't mention you had to be budget conscious.

We bought our LC200 with 80000 kms on it and several accessories for $50k which is less than an Isuzu or a Pajero I think? (Aren't the Pajeros being discontinued)

Its done 130000 now and its still got plenty of life left in it yet.

Some low kms used cars like ex-lease represent good value in the current buyers market.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Saturday, Sep 05, 2020 at 07:25

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But how much warranty would you on an LC200 with 80,000km on the clock.

The MUX will be brand spanking new with a 6 year warranty.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 14:28

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 14:28
you never see a 200 on its side and van on roof.
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Follow Up By: Notso - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 14:37

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 14:37
Not quite right there mate! Saw it happen in front of my eyes! They'll all do it if they aren't properly loaded.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jim S1 - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 14:55

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 14:55
Yep, I saw one in the ditch in Cunningham's Gap a few years ago. It definitely happens.

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Follow Up By: Member Kerry W (Qld) - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 21:17

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 21:17
There was a spate of 200s towing vans gone over on the Bruce highway near the Sunshine Coast over the last few years. Poor loading, speed and lack of experience....among other things
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Follow Up By: splits - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 22:50

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 22:50
I have also seen a few 200s go over. They are too short in the wheel base and this makes it much easier for large vans to lever their rear end sideways. For any big van that is up near the weight of the car, you need the longest possible wheelbase and the shortest possible distance between the rear axle and the tow ball.
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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 15:38

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 15:38
I wouldn't do anything until you actually have the new van weighed at a registered weigh station. Plenty of people have been fed bullshit from caravan dealers/ manufacturers and found out their van is several hundred kilograms heavier than what is on the VIN plate or what they were told.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 16:28

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 16:28
Very good advice from Bigfish.
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Follow Up By: braincell - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 17:26

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 17:26
Yeah thanks bigfish , might do that .Think I'll pass on the pajero sport , prob cant go wrong with Izuzu or the old reliable Nx pajero.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 17:55

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 17:55
I have an NW Pajero and about 6 months ago I had a mild remap of the ecu. Made a great difference to the cars behaviour. No more throttle lag, instant power and brilliant for towing my 2250kg camper around. I bought the car new in 2014 and test drove and evaluated every other make of 4wd. Have driven and owned 4 wds for around 40 years Without a doubt the paj is the best all round vehicle I,ve driven. 2.6tonne would be the max I,d be towing for both safety and driveability reasons. Same goes for any other 4wd out there. Get the torque converter lock up kit put on your car ($800), mild ecu remap, good suspension (probably $3500 for the lot) and you will have a tourer/tower equal to any. You have a young car so it is worth setting it up right and enjoy what you have.
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Reply By: Member - Mark (Tamworth NSW) - Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 20:27

Friday, Sep 04, 2020 at 20:27
From memory once the tow ball weight exceeds 180kg, the legal limit for the Pajero comes back to 2.5T. I struggle to see that the Sport would be any different and wouldn't think there would be many 2.6T vans under 180kg ball weight

If you look on the Pajero Forum you will see a post with many responses from people who tow and have moved from a NS to NW Paj over to a Sport.
I've had three Pajeros over 18 years for 750 000km (so obvioulsy I'm fond of them), personally I wouldn't tow 2.6T with one, especially on rough roads. Splitting hairs but 2.5T would be my absolute limit.
My experience is limited to a 1.6T camper trailer
I'm faced with the same dilemma next year, for comfort reasons I'm probably leaning towards a Prado FWIW.

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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Sep 05, 2020 at 09:35

Saturday, Sep 05, 2020 at 09:35
Hi braincell,

My only comment on buying a new Pajero is that Mitsubishi recently announced that they are discontinuing the Pajero. To me, this means that whilst you are likely to get a good deal on a new Pajero, the after sales service may not be there after a couple of years.

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