Will a trailer from UK work in OZ

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Hi, I'm looking at shipping a Penine Pullman trailer tent over from the UK. Trying to find out if the electric hook up, the electric braking system and the ball coupling will comply with Australia?
Anyone travelled overseas with theirs?
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Reply By: qldcamper - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 13:10

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 13:10
The UK uses a twin trailer plug set up for reasons i am unsure of but that can easily be changed. If it has electric brakes they should be compatible with our controllers but a quick email to tekonsha who supply controllers world wide would clear that up, they are very helpful and based in the US from memory.

Cant comment on the 240 volt system except the UK uses the same voltage and frequency as us, or near enough but the connection point if it has one will be different.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 18:33

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 18:33
Gas is another thing you need to comply.
Does yours run on propane or butane?
Bottled butane is not readily available here as it is in the UK and the van has to be built in a way to let any leaked gas drain outside through vents to comply and will need a gas certificate before you can register it.
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:03

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:03
Thanks for the feedback, will look into this.
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Reply By: Member - DW Lennox Head(NSW) - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 13:22

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 13:22
I personally would be looking at Australian built as the European lightly built vehicles do not like many Australian road surfaces.
This may be helpful.
https://www.carsguide.com.au/adventure/advice/australias-top-6-forward-folding-camper-trailers-73470
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:15

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:15
Thanks for feedback. I get that a lot of 4wd, beach access camping will be off limits with a UK built trailer. It's just my parents have a fairly new, hardly used trailer they aren't using anymore in the UK. I can ship it over for $2k, a lot less than spending $20+ K here in AUS. Just want to make sure I can make it work here for not too huge a cost.
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Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 16:59

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 16:59
Buy Australian and help the economy here and Keep Australian’s employed.

There are some brilliant Aussies manufacturers right here
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 18:27

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 18:27
Maybe Emma is a world traveller and wants to bring her CT with her from over there (when the borders open)?
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 19:39

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 19:39
Frank

If she is a world traveller, she will be waiting for a very, very long time to get into Australia with the current COVID situations
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:22

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:22
Asking as my parents in the UK have a fairly new, hardly used trailer they aren't using anymore. I can ship it over for to Melbourne for $2k, a lot less than spending $20-30K for something equivalent here in AUS.
Just wanting to make sure I can adapt it to make it work here if required, for not too huge a cost.
The shipping company is operating as normal during covid.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 08:56

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 08:56
I,d do the same. Lot better than spending money on local built or chinese import. Wouldnt be hard to set it up to comply with Australian standards. Gas, braking, electrics and other particluars not hard to adapt.
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Reply By: qldcamper - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 18:24

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 18:24
Anybody want to help Emma by answering her questions constructively instead of assuming she doesnt already own one in the UK and is doing the chinese out of a sale by not buying Australian .
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 19:44

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 19:44
You just shot yourself in the foot there qldcamper........lol

There are many high quality 100% Australian made campers made right here in Australia and we own one such camper, an Ultimate that will go anywhere, 100% both dust and waterproof and 100% Australian and owned by Australians, and not Chinese interests
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:31

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:31
Thanks for response.

I would buy & support local if there wasn't a new trailer available for me, my parents aren't using theirs anymore.
I can ship it over here to Melbourne for $2k, instead of spending $20-30K for something equivalent here in AUS. I will be supporting the campsites and camping community when it get here!
Just wanting to make sure I can adapt it to make it work here if required, for not too huge a cost.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:48

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:48
How dare anyone use sarcasm on this forum Stephen. At your age one would have thought you would have grown up a little.
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Reply By: OzzieCruiser - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 19:05

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 19:05
You will need to make some changes to the tail light wiring. Each tail light has its own power where in Aust there is just one power feed for both tail lights. Also be aware that in Aust one of the UK tail light feeds (and not sure one which one) is the same as the electric brakes - hence if you connect a UK car to an Aussie trailer fitted with electric brakes, the trailer brakes come on when you turn the car headlights on.

An easy fix though.
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:33

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 00:33
Thanks for the feedback, life would be so much simpler if this was all universal!
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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:36

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:36
Try buying a new UK built car here and just plug in your Aussie caravan and turn on the lights and see what happens - you dont go anywhere.

Yes would be good if things were universal around the world (Australia is the odd one out here).
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Follow Up By: Slopokin - Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 08:48

Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 08:48
Before I saw the light I owned a few Range Rovers and Discovery's, never had any problems with connecting them up to any trailer, horse float of caravan. The trailers plugs may have been wired differently, but I don't think so.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:09

Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:09
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"Seeing the light" in Rovers and Disco'scan be problematic in itself. lol
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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:46

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@Slopokin must have been a long time ago when trailer wiring was not fitted as standard from the factory.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 14:17

Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 14:17
Been about 10 years since I worked on road going vehicles professionally but the last range rover I wired for a float came std with 2 of the large round sockets, one with male pins and one with female and it had the tail light wire to the one without the indicators and brake lights. From memory it also had a fog light circuit in there as well.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 21:43

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 21:43
Gas regulations are different and 240V power regulations are different, so significant work may be required there to get those services changed and approved.
More significant is the requirement for both gas and 240V appliances to have local approval. That may be easy or impossible depending on the specifics. If impossible they will need replacement.
In some cases it is possible to use the camper without some of the approvals but it may not be sold or even given away (EVER) without full approval.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 22:11

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 22:11
"Anyone travelled overseas with theirs?"

Reading your original post again..... If you are bringing the vehicle and trailer to Oz for a short time and intend taking it out of the country again AND if it will continue to be registered in an overseas country you will be OK with whatever is legal at home. NO MODS will be required.
But you will need a carnet (which is a guarantee that the vehicle leaves the country after your trip.

Big differences between temporary and permanent import.
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:04

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:04
Thanks for the feedback, more things to consider & look into.
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:09

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:09
Looking to ship to Aus permanently, one way trip. My parents no longer use there trailer, it's still pretty new hardly been used. Will cost $2k to ship as opposed to spending $20-30k here on something equivalent.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jim S1 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 09:10

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 09:10
Now it all makes sense Emma. Just be careful to get a known reliable shipper, and be insured.
Getting it compliant here should be pretty simple. And be prepared for customs to be a bit of a pain, and expensive.
Good luck.

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Reply By: Mark C9 - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 21:56

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 21:56
Might be better to contact the relevant transport authorities here in Oz and check out the basics.
After all, they are the ones who will give the approvals if needed
Re the connections, contact some of the auto electrical companies that provide equipment here in oz
Lastly, I would have thought that the expense of transporting it here would be offset by buying here
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Follow Up By: Member - rocco2010 - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 22:13

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 22:13
Here’s an article that details some costs from someone who did it for those interested .

Importing a caravan

In summary: The shipping and insurance cost A$6,000, plus another A$4,000 for import duty, GST, customs and quarantine in­spections, and shipping agents’ fees. The couple also had to pay A$1,500 for safety and gas certificates and minor altera­tions for compliance.
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:16

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:16
Thanks will contact shipping company Monday, they are closed on the weekend and was trying to get import approval complete online before then.
I've been quoted $2k for shipping and insurance. Will find out import costs Monday, hope it's not going to be as much as $4k.
The trailer would cost $25-30k to buy something equivalent here.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 21:06

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 21:06
Based on Rocco's numbers and your replacement value, importing makes sense if you are prepared to go through the bureaucratic hoops.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 23:18

Saturday, Oct 24, 2020 at 23:18
Here is some reading for you - Importing Vehicles into Australia - 8 steps to import a vehicle.

There may be a lot of conversions after you get it here. The gas system will have to be upgraded to Oz standards. Any gas appliances that do not have Australian gas appliances will have to be certified to meet the Oz standards. The plugs and sockets in the 230 V system will require to be replaced with Oz ones and the electrics certified.
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Follow Up By: Emma M6 - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:21

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 01:21
Thanks for your feedback. Will investigate this further.
Any ideas roughly on the cost to convert to Oz standards>

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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 08:49

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 08:49
It all depends upon what work is needed for your particular unit. You have not provided much info on the unit or any pictures.
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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 09:04

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 09:04
The vans cost you nothing. So what if it costs $15000 to get it imported and compliant with Aussie standards. Just make sure you have good insurance for the trip over. . Local gas fitter and electrician will be able to sort out the van and sign off on the paperwork. Seen many vans made in Aus. that people have bought new and been totally screwed over buy dealers and manufacturers alike. Just because its made in Aus. doesn't mean its guaranteed to be a great buy. So many shonky dealers out there
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Reply By: bobsabobsa - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:06

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 10:06


Hi Emma
is this what you are importing if so , Is there 240 volts ? If so a spark would not take very long to make it compliant lucky to be an inlet and 2 power points.

The gas , the bottles are on the outside, so well vented, you will need a swap and go bottle there and a gas fitter to make it compliant , not a big job there either , maybe a new stove .

The tail light and indicators , not a big job there, you will just change your trailer plug to suit, it has indicators and brake lights and tail lights already .

You might need to change the coupling that is all

good luck hope all goes well and happy travels

I am a sparky and I do not see any complications

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Reply By: Gbc.. - Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 20:18

Sunday, Oct 25, 2020 at 20:18
You’ll have to have it cleaned to customs standards which isn’t cheap. Mates have imported boats from the USA and that caught them.
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Reply By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 15:24

Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 15:24
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Emma, have you considered asking your parents to sell their camper and pass the proceeds to you to purchase a camper here in Australia?
It could save a lot of risk, trouble and pain.
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Reply By: Stevemac - Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 19:45

Monday, Oct 26, 2020 at 19:45
Bloody hell... and I thought the EC with foreign language and driving on the wrong side of the road was complicated.

Maybe remainers were right. After all. 50~ years is a long time.

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