Kakadu to Nhulunbuy
Submitted: Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 18:01
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Brian T
Hi
Has anyone been able to secure permits in Arnhem Land to go from
Kakadu to
Maningrida to
Nhulunbuy
then down the Central Arnhem Highway to the Stuart Hwy
We have had previous permits in to
Maningrida and back out and to
Nhulunbuy up and back
Wishing to visit Gallerys without back tracking
Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 18:51
Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 18:51
Brian
The only way you will get a permit is either you are working in one of the communities or have family there, otherwise totally out of the question.
Permits from the Northern Lands Council to
Nhulunbuy via the Central Arnhem Highway are free and they are now encouraging tourists into the area.
Good luck and let us know if things have changed
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 19:42
Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 19:42
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Unless of course Stephen, you are an Outback Spirit bus carrying tourists. Then it's off we go, no worries.
It really gets up my nose when a commercial enterprise obtains an advantage that is not available to the general public.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 21:48
Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 21:48
Yes they have it sewn up and they know it
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Reply By: Member - peter g28 - Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 19:50
Saturday, Nov 14, 2020 at 19:50
Travel along the "top track"..out from Cahills..into East Arnhemland you will need to get the OK from the Northern Land Council..I am lead to believe that the travel company "Outback Spirit" has something to do about the restriction of using the "top Track"..this might have changed...
If you want to visit the art galleries along the Top Track...Outback Spirit has it all tied up.
When living in
Nhulunbuy..it was a huge "bone of contention" about the commercialisation of the "Top Track"..I wanted to drive to Millingimby to visit a family member who was working there..I could fly in...but driving there was completely out of the question.
You will have have to travel down to
Katherine and let the Land Council know you are travelling along the CAR..it is more of letting them know who is on the track...
Good Luck.
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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 08:25
Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 08:25
Only two years ago I remember
Nhulunbuy was looking for tourist dollars due to a
mine or some income stream drying up. When we were in
Darwin mid 2018 we thought we might drive across there but we changed our plans to do other things in QLD. I'm sure back then you could get a permit and drive your 4x4 across. Things must have changed in the last few years. Michael
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 09:43
Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 09:43
Michael, permits are available, but not for the route OP wanted.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:10
Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:10
As
John has said, the only way to get into
Nhulunbuy is via the Central Arnhem Highway, which is free.
You have never been able to get permits coming in from the north
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:23
Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 10:23
Ok thanks,
John and Stephen, I do remember
something about that now. I should read more clearly too :)) Michael
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 16:09
Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 16:09
I find this thread somewhat depressing.
Why, because I dream of spending an extended period in Arnhem Land, a minimum of 6 months. Not on expensive tours , without seeking employment, & without going there as an ‘expert’ of some sort. The only place I have been in Arnhem Land to date is Ngukurr which I loved & found extremely welcoming.
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Reply By: Kenell - Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 17:03
Sunday, Nov 15, 2020 at 17:03
We travelled to
Nhulunbuy in 2018. While we were there we made enquiries along the lines of Brian T's post ie travelling back via
Maningrida etc. We were told that the permits we already had were sufficient to cover the trip however communities along the way were apt to close access without notice and it was possible - even likely - that we would become stuck. In fact when we made our enquiry
Maningrida was closed for a week presumably due to a death. We chose not to chance it. I had been to
Maningrida previously and I suspect part of the reason the route isn't generally available is that the communities aren't set up for all and sundry to
camp in / near them. Then there are
breakdown recoveries, medical emergencies and so on. All the things remote travel brings with it. The commercial venture is self accommodating and there is a degree of control over movements, numbers, frequency etc.
Nhulunbuy is in a unique position with the plant closing down over such a long period of time (10 years I think?) and the need to maintain facilities for both the indigenous and white populations while that happens. The tourist $ contributes to this.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:29
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:29
I reckon who ever told you that the permit you had to travel in from the Sturt Hwy to
Nhulunbuy allowed you to travel back via
Maningrida is totally wrong! Lived there for decades and know that it was extremely hard to get a permit for the Nhulunbuy/
Maningrida Road.. After the wet the road can be washed out in many
places and as you say...communities/stores can shut down in a moments notice. This can be due to fighting in community, funeral ceremonies or even a curse put on the community. I had a special permit that allowed me to travel anywhere in Arnhem Land for recreational and work purposes.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 07:44
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 07:44
Totally agree with Bigfish, as when you get your permit from the Northern Lands Council, it clearly only states that the only access road is the Central Arnhem Highway.,
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Follow Up By: Kenell - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 08:11
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 08:11
Stephen, as you would be aware, NLC only provide permits for the CAH. To go beyond there one has to seek permits from the authority in
Nhulunbuy. I have forgotten the name of that authority. Our enquiry was a bit off the cuff as we hadn't really considered it carefully but since we were in there I thought I would ask the question. Others camped near us asked also and presumably got the same response so chose to go back that way. They had a better set up than us if they were to be delayed so weren't concerned about the spasmodic community closures. Another fellow in the 'caravan park' came in that way. I have no idea what permits he had or how he got them. Now the advice we received may have been wrong but the person we spoke to seemed authoritative and apparently our enquiry was not unusual.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 08:26
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 08:26
The NLC also issue permits for all of the Top End of the NT.
Mine was issued by the NLC and covered me for all of Arnhem Land (East and West) due to the nature of my work and my need to travel to very remote communities. I can assure you they would not let anyone undermine this part of their business. You can get local permits in
Nhulunbuy for the local area but they do not apply outside of this area.. The only official offices I am aware of in
Nhulunbuy are the NLC and the local council group. All community permits go through the NLC. . I have traveled that road quite a few times and seen it at its best and its worst. Have had to turn around a few times because it was closed for ceremony business. .Luckily I was able to
camp in the communities near by. ..Tourists would not be able to. Special permits can be granted to certain workers who need to travel for work purposes.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 09:53
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 at 09:53
Hi Kennell
The other permit body you are talking about this this one
Dhimurru Corporation, but they do not have any control outside of the immediate
Nhulunbuy area.
The Northern Lands Council in both
Darwin and
Katherine issues permits for every other area and to put it bluntly, if you don’t live or work in one of the Communities, you will not get a permit.
I was very envious of our friend that was living in
Nhulunbuy when we visited her.
Being a Mid Wife, she visited all those communities and because of who she was, always went that way to and from
Darwin. When I asked about her permit, yes she had a special permit, but was never ever question, as she was known by everyone from the Police and all the Community Elders.
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