Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021 at 16:30
Hi
Ross
First of all, you will never regret going for the Toyo, they are a brilliant tyre.
Now for my thoughts......
Prior going to Toyo AT 11 LT, I WAS A Bridgestone man, they were a great tyre, great on the dirt, quiet on the bitumen........but were not good on mileage.
I would never let them go below 50% tread life, but that was at a dismal 30k
We did have BFG on the camper and were hearing good report on how good they were.......
Our Bridgestone had
well over 50% tread left and headed up to
Lawn Hill, via the
Birdsville Track. When we got to
Birdsville, the car tyres were perfect, not one mark on them.....but not the same for the camper, the BFG were so badly chipped it was a total joke and I knew I was not going to put them now on my Prado.
Made comments here on the
forum and the usual tyre experts here said it was nothing to do with the tyres, but because they were on the camper.........which I knew was total crap.
Swapped over to the Toyo as a trial, as they were at the time over $100 cheaper per tyre, including new Toyo’s on the camper, same type...
The tyres have performed faultlessly, including the Tanami, Duncan Road,
Flinders Ranges, Central Arnhem Highway,
Cape York,
Birdsville Track, Strezelecki Track plus countless other dirt and rocky tracks, with the camper in tow.
The tyres are still over 50% tread ware...but have travelled 60k,
If I only drove on bitumen, and they continued to ware the same, I would be looking at 110k?......give or take, something totally impossible with my Bridgestone.
Unfortunately due to age and not ware, I will be getting new tyres soon and will go Back to the Toyo AT11, without even looking at another brand.
As for the Toyo on my camper, they have travelled all the above tracks and are like new, not one mark on the, which shows how superior they are over the BFG that chipped so bad.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ross N (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021 at 16:55
Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021 at 16:55
Thank you Stephen.
I know from your frequent posts that you do a lot of remote touring so your recommendation has weight.
Have you considered the R/T or M55?
Ross Nielsen
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021 at 17:05
Wednesday, Jan 13, 2021 at 17:05
To be very honest
Ross, not really, as the Open Country AT11 have handled all those great Aussie Roads in their stride.
One thing I did not mention was the Toyo had a higher load rating over the Bridgestone.
How much better they would perform would be interesting, but like I said, it will see criminal to get rid of the Toyo’s that I am now using, but I want full confidence when heading off road and with as much tread as possible.
I know the only size that would fit my Prado ...265/65R17 is either the Open Country or the M55.
Not sure how they could compare, as the Open Country ticks all my boxes, quiet on the bitumen, great on the dirt roads and fantastic tyre life.
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Follow Up By: Member - Triton man - Thursday, Jan 14, 2021 at 16:39
Thursday, Jan 14, 2021 at 16:39
As per
Ross said, your input is always reliable Stephen, did a quick
check on the Toyo's for my vehic;e, looks like $250 a corner (so far) so will be buying 4 of either Duellers or Toyo's before my next big trip in May. Where that is depends on W.A. (not looking good there for the SBJR) with permits required so will be driving around the N.T. and I reckon it will be on tracks that don't require a permit (unfortunately). Need good rubber so will tyre up in April.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Thursday, Jan 14, 2021 at 21:41
Thursday, Jan 14, 2021 at 21:41
Tritan , I loved the Bridgestone 694 and 697, but were hopeless for mileage.
Not I have used the Toyo and getting double the mileage I will never go back to Bridgestone.
Save your hard earned dollars and go the Toyo and you will be very happy
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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Friday, Jan 15, 2021 at 09:44
Friday, Jan 15, 2021 at 09:44
Stephen L wrote "One thing I did not mention was the Toyo had a higher load rating over the Bridgestone."
Hi Stephen, it seems to vary according to tyre size.
In 265/75R16 the Bridgestone D697 AT's , & the Toyo Open Country AT's & RT's all have the same 123Q load rating.
I noted however the 285/75R16 Toyo RT had a higher 126Q load rating whereas the same size D697's only a 122Q & Toyo AT 122Q.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Friday, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:12
Friday, Jan 15, 2021 at 10:12
On my size, 265/65R17 the Bridgestone load rating was 118 compared to my Toyo at 120
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Follow Up By: Member - Triton man - Friday, Jan 15, 2021 at 15:36
Friday, Jan 15, 2021 at 15:36
I have the 245/70R16 and my new Triton came delivered with the 694's and now I have the 697's. Spare is still a 694 and has not been on the road yet. Was thinking if I went with the Duellers of 697, I could cycle in my spare 694 an get some value out of it on the road as a rotator. Would not like to mix and match with a new style of tyre like Toyo atm. That would tend to keep me in the Bridgestone family. Stephen, do see a problem with 3 x 697's and one (1) 694 on the road.? The Triton just went 36 months last month (Dec 1997)
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