Nissan Pathfinder Vs Toyota Kluger

Submitted: Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 11:22
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Good day Guys
I would like to do a trip around Aus with a light van around 1500 kg full
No off road work Around a 16 or 17 mod Which one would you go for
Thanks guys
Chris
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Reply By: Kazza055 - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 11:35

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 11:35
You should add the Isuzu MUX to the list, they are well renowned for reliability and would tow that size van with ease.

My suggestion would be to add a long range tank to extend the distance between refills.
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Follow Up By: chris a - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 12:08

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 12:08
Thanks mate way to dear for for this old guy They bounce around
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Saturday, Feb 06, 2021 at 09:42

Saturday, Feb 06, 2021 at 09:42
I am not certain where this comes from "They bounce around".

My D-Max rides just like any other car and this is after having a GVM upgrade. Maybe you need to take one for a test drive and make up your own mind rather than what you might read on facebook.
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 13:07

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 13:07
Pathfinder probably cheaper, and also a bit more rugged, and probably cheaper to run. All depends on the deal you can get.

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Reply By: RMD - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 14:31

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 14:31
The Klunker is petrol AND front wheel drive unless you pay for an AWD, which ONLY becomes active when wheel slippage is experienced and unwise to tow with a FWD imho.. ANY slightly slippery surface will see your front wheel traction disappear, especially with the rear loaded. Then you don't move the van anywhere, anyone got a towrope?
The Nissan pathfinder has no chassis and is petrol or hybrid petrol, Read more complicated and is Hybrid ok for towing?
Both will suck fuel if travelling with 1500kg on the back. Both are at least as costly, most times more cost than an MUX and the MUX far more economical. Mux Bounces around does it? not heard of that before. Many Many Mux vehicles out there performing better than your preference choices. There is a reason MUX is seen frequently towing. Upgrade of fuel tank size needed though.
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 16:01

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 16:01
Funny this morning I was speaking to a bloke who I recommended to buy a Mux.

he bought it about 3-4 years ago to tow his 1500Kg van has 98Kk and NO problems.

He bought a 2WD . I didn't know at the time they made 2WD.

Anyway he was saying that he gets about 8.5 Lper100Km towing at 90 to 100Km across the Nullarbor.

My son is in the process of buying one and the bloke's brother is also in process. 3 months wait for new.

The 4wd will not get as good economy but should do 10Lper 100Km.
The bloke is utterly rapt with it.
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Follow Up By: Kazza055 - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 16:36

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 16:36
I know the MUX is good but it is not this good - "Anyway he was saying that he gets about 8.5 Lper100Km towing at 90 to 100Km across the Nullarbor."

Most people are reporting figures of around 8.5 L/100 normal driving but to get that while towing a 1500kg van is bull. Either he has put up a sail and has a good tail wind or he is wedged right up a semi's rear end.

I tow a 2500kg van with my D-Max and get anywhere between 16 to 20+ L/100. Around town I get between 10-11L/100 but I have a canopy, 2 solar panels, bullbar etc which all add up.
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Follow Up By: Member - Allan L2 - Saturday, Feb 06, 2021 at 09:53

Saturday, Feb 06, 2021 at 09:53
“Anyway he was saying that he gets about 8.5 Lper100Km towing at 90 to 100Km across the Nullarbor.”

I suspect he is confused between Litres/100 & Kms / Litre. 8.5 Kms / Litre = 11.76 Litres/100. A bit closer to the mark.

I tow a 2300Kg pop-top with a D max 4x4x auto & usually return 14-17 Litres/100. A day of head winds pushes the figures around 18-19 litres/100. Cruising on the highway no load returns 9-10 Litres/100. Have a canopy but no bull bar.

Ignore the photo below, that's the previous vehicle.
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Reply By: Michael H9 - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 18:12

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 18:12
I heard somewhere that there were gearbox issues with the new shape Pathfinders

https://autoexpert.com.au/videoblog/nissan-pathfinder-class-action-lawsuit-investigation

Not what you want to hear if you're towing anything.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 19:25

Friday, Feb 05, 2021 at 19:25
Anyone towing any significant weight with a CVT transmission, which would therefore be running under higher than normal load with it's drive components running in the SAME position on it's tapered drive members will ensure earlier than normal failure. Depending on the inherent quality built in ( not something Nissan specializes in) the life of a less than superior design will fail. Rule. Don't tow with CVT if at all posible. Highly loaded Toyota front wheeldrive units with conventional autos towing vans have been known to break off the primary drive shaft to the crown wheel of the diff. So conventional autos like the Mux does have is a great option.
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Reply By: Gbc.. - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 20:12

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 20:12
Between those two yank wagons I’d choose a Ford territory diesel.
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Reply By: Geoff K4 - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 22:23

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 22:23
To answer your question, we have a Kluger and love it. It will be a little thirsty but it's the most comfortable ride. As long as your van is not more than 1600 kgs full, the Kluger will do just fine. I can't comment on the Pathfinder, I've never owned a Nissan. I used our D-max for our lap but we had to as our van is over 2 tonne. On long trips without the van we use the Kluger. Your call.
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Reply By: RMD - Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 at 14:23

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 at 14:23
Chris a.
Let us know your thoughts on the info provided in replies as there is a lot more awareness about your question if deciding to spend $'s on vehicle and caravan. You don't see too many of those two towing anything.
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Follow Up By: Geoff K4 - Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 08:48

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 08:48
To Add, My daughter uses her Kluger to tow the single ended Expanda as it is around the 1600 kg weight, the Kluger tows it easily with the comfort ride.
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Follow Up By: chris a - Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 15:13

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 15:13
Thanks guys
What kind of life will i get out of a MUX
I have been around aus 2 1/2 times with my old 2002 ford falcon with the van
No big problems I had transmission oil cooler fitted At 450 000 K I let the car go
May be a falcon ute what do you think
Thanks


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Follow Up By: Member - Jim S1 - Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 15:52

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 15:52
A Falcon ute would do it easily I imagine. Just get a good one !!

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Reply By: Member - Soft-Trailer - Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 21:12

Monday, Mar 01, 2021 at 21:12
Personally I'd go Kluger, based solely on the gearbox alone. Everything else really is pretty equal between them, but the Pathfinder has more room in the back/ far back seats (doesn't sound like an issue for you).

Bear in mind, you're up for servicing every 10,000km if not sooner though. MUX from memory has longer intervals.

Look at the payload each can carry, and the service intervals. If it were me, and I am guessing you're aiming somewhere in the $30K+ mark and prefer petrol (as do I), I'd also be looking at a Subaru Outback, preferably the 6-cylinder version.
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