Fuel on the Garry Junction Road under COVID 19 travel restrictions

Submitted: Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 09:34
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Hi all

I'm trying to plan a northern WA trip for this winter. Unfortunately, as with most things, COVID19 is proving problematic. The WA Govt has quite rightly closed the remote Indigenous communities given their vulnerability to the virus. Unless they roll out the vaccine and open these communities before winter, our plan to do the northern end of the Canning Stock Route looks unlikely. We'll be watching the announcements following the vaccine rollout closely.

As plan B, we're hoping to head across to Karijini via the Garry Junction Road. As far as I can tell, the only fuel on the 1100 km stretch from Kintore to Marble Bar is at the Kiwikurra, Kunawarritji and Punmu communities. Under the WA travel restrictions you are allowed to drive through these communities as long as you don't stop.

Does anyone know if there's any other way to get fuel along this route? I've heard you can get fuel drums dropped...

Cheers
Chris

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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:03

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:03
Tow a trailer and take it with you?
We did get fuel at Telfer once, but that was an exception.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:58

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 11:58
If fuel is the only hang up, I would be finding a way to carry enough, even without a trailer.
My local mechanic has surplus 20L plastic oil containers that would be ideal for a one way trip.
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Follow Up By: Member - rocco2010 - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 13:37

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 13:37
It wasn’t the only reason I bought a Prado but 150 litres takes you a fair distance.
The CSR is about the only place I would ever need a jerrycan.

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Follow Up By: Stevemac - Sunday, Feb 14, 2021 at 21:54

Sunday, Feb 14, 2021 at 21:54
The 120 series had 180 L capacity
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:28

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:28
All fuel supplies are in communities. All communities are off the main track. If the communities are closed I cannot see how you can get fuel (or probably a permit - 2 permits required - 1 from NT & 1 from WA)

Fuel drops on the CSR at well 23 have occurred in the past (not sure about this year) but I have never heard of this on the GJR. Even if you could arrange this, you still have to go through Papunya township which may be closed.

In the unlikely scenario of being able to obtain transit permits whilst communities are closed, and if they allow you to drive through the centre of Papunya without stopping, (2 big ‘ifs) the only other possibility I can think of for fuel might be a pre-arrangement with the people at Telfer mine, but that would still require a fuel range to take you from the last fuel available at Glen Helen to Telfer!

Until such time as you know whether permits will be issued I’d suggest that unfortunately you may be wise to be looking at ‘Plan C’.
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Follow Up By: CKG - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 15:24

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 15:24
Thanks Cuppa

Yeah - that's what I've been thinking. It's a bumma!

I don't have one yet but I'm starting to think about plan C. Maybe it's time to do the simpson.

Chris



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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 11:10

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 at 11:10
Fuel at Glen Helen no more. They closed it all down 'indefinitely' August last year.
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Reply By: Dusta - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 13:01

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 13:01
your best bet is to call the relevant authorities and get their advice
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Follow Up By: CKG - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 15:25

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 15:25
Good idea.

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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 21:31

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 21:31
We live in WA and obviously we have a vested interested in knowing what's going on with access, travel restrictions etc. From where we sit, our observations are that it is unwise to make future plans to travel to somewhere that is currently restricted due to Aboriginal community closures based on COVID. The CSR for example is also closed until further notice and I honestly don't expect that to change anytime soon. No only do the communities need to get the vaccines (twice remember, there's a second dose apparently) they also need confidence that people visiting will be vaccinated before coming AND confidence that this vaccination process does anything towards protecting their community from possible infection from outside visitors. No one knows what effect the vaccines will even have yet. My gut instincts tell me that many of these places won't reopen until international travel is back up and running that that is a long way off - no one can say for certain but its not hard to write off this year as a possibility.
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Follow Up By: Zippo - Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 22:39

Monday, Feb 08, 2021 at 22:39
That raises an interesting point. Assuming the WA-NT border remains open, the GCR between Laverton and Alice would be doable if:

(a) stopping/fuelling only at Tjukayirla and Warakurna - neither of which is "in a community" - and then Yulara/Curtin Springs; and
(b) permits were available on the above basis i.e. not stopping in communities, only "passing through" Warburton and "bypassing" Docker River.

Just thinking out loud ...
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Follow Up By: CKG - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 10:00

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 10:00
Thanks for the clear and considered response. I reckon all you say is correct. Was hoping rather planning on the basis that restrictions will lift in time.

Cheers
Chris
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Follow Up By: GG7777 - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 13:50

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 13:50
I have been in phone contact with permit authorities for the Great Central and already issued the permit for the NT section, the WA portion is open for “transit travel” but requires you to have a G2G Pass and when that has been approved I will be among the applicants.
Planning 8/9 months in WA and very flexible with where we go , so not looking at it as a problem
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 14:03

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 14:03
GG, it is my understanding you need a reason to be issued a G2G pass.
I am in WA at the moment and I needed varification from my employer just to get a pass to travel in and out of Perth without crossing any borders.
If you come to WA when the border restrictions are lifted in a week or so be prepaired to stay put if the restrictions are bunged back on again, things change over night.
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Follow Up By: GG7777 - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 14:36

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 14:36
qld Camper
That’s what I meant by ‘ we intend to be 8/9 months’, a return to lockdown won’t worry us until it is time to return to home.
We lived and worked in WA during the 70s & 80s and want to revisit some old haunts, so will have lots to see
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 17:06

Tuesday, Feb 09, 2021 at 17:06
Yes in the same boat as you, so much to see but never get a chance. Been working ovet here 9 years and have only seen mining leases although there are some pretty stunning ranges on the one I am at now. If the big 3 get there way there wont be anything but man made ranges and lakes in the pilbara and kimberly in a hundred years.
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Follow Up By: Member - HeroAS - Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 at 17:14

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 at 17:14
We intend to visit WA in May travelling along the Anne Beadell from Coober Pedy to Laverton and hopefully picking up fuel at Ilkurlka which is marked as a roadhouse, but I believe is run by an indigenous community. Has anyone done this in recent COVID times? Presumably we could pass through without stopping for fuel if we can manage to take enough with us. Any comments re state of track etc. appreciated.
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Follow Up By: GG7777 - Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 at 19:20

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 at 19:20
HeroAS
My research has shown me that the simplest way is to phone if possible to get current info from permit suppliers.
Lock in a permit, as early as possible.
Do your research on the ‘obligatory’ G2G Pass.
Then cross your fingers, toes and any other body part that might help.
BUT
Something as simple as one solitary case of Covid (in your home state) will bring it all down like a pack of cards, i.e. Victoria’s case/cases today caused SA to close the borders making the “back door” system of spending 2 weeks in a ‘very low risk’ state no longer viable.

Best of luck with your plans, I hope you are successful as the AB is a magic trip
Regards
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Follow Up By: Candace S. - Sunday, Feb 28, 2021 at 17:29

Sunday, Feb 28, 2021 at 17:29
I don't see international travel as a realistic possibility until 2022 at the earliest.
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