Revisiting Windows 10 and GPS - any recent innovations?

This has been discussed here in the last couple of days.

Have a look at System Requirements at https://www.exploroz.com/traveller, especially toward the bottom.

Edit:
I just saw your Follow Up at https://www.exploroz.com/forum/141336/incorrect-position, so you are probably aware already of the above. If you can get past the $$$ I don't see why a Bad Elf wouldn't work with the software mentioned in System Requirements.

I have an old bluetooth GPS mouse of unknown brand. It works perfectly.

Out of interest but a bit clumsy with dangling cables, the same software allows a GPS connected via USB to work as well. I had success with an old Magellan Explorist 600 set to output NMEA to USB.

If you turn off the apps location permission in the window's settings you will only get a single request to turn on location settings at start up but no persistent nagging see screen shot:

Jim

Windows 10 is no different to older Windows platforms.

You use USB input stand alone GPS device and Bluetooth.

As for Bluetooth, there are Garmin , Bad Elf and others that work well.

For USB, you can connect a hand held GPS and then there is the good BU 353.

I know it may be an overkill, but the Bad Elf will support sending GPS data to 5 desperate computers at once, while a USB GPS will only work on the computer that it is connected to.

That worked!
Thanks for the tip Warren H - very much appreciated.

A prompt to that effect really should be added to the dialog rather than the never ending persistent message being represented . . . I hope David or Michelle sees this too :-).

Jim

If you want to use the Traveller app on Windows for planning (not active tracking) or have no GPS you can simply disable Location Services altogether from your device in the Windows setting - go the Windows start menu - press Settings - then select Privacy - then select Location. You can turnoff location to the device altogether. Because - if you don't turn this off, and the Traveller app cannot find a location (because it is a GPS nav program it expects to find your location) Traveller will assign a default location for you - ALICE SPRINGS. But - you can override this default position in your Windows settings (privacy - location) and assign a default location of say, your home.

This is how I use Windows on the desktop in my office to do demos, screen shots etc. But I change my default location all the time so that I can show the GPS lock on my location being in different parts of the map - eg. I put myself in Darwin, or Mt Isa, or Tasmania. It's very easy. This is all part of Windows Settings. Not the Traveller app. But of course, for planning for yourself you don't need to change your position - I just do this to avoid showing my office location in the screen shots - it doesn't affect my ability to pan the map of course.

What I have used for years is a Windows tablet (Asus) on a RAM mount for the passenger to view. OziExplorer for Windows, various digital maps including Natmaps 1:250000. A USB GPS puck on the dash provides the data. I have moving map, any waypoints can be done either before the trip or on the road using a mini trackball keypad (Lenovo)

I was talking with Michelle on another matter yesterday and mentioned this thread.

She and David explained that within Windows there's a difference between APPS and PROGRAMS.

Windows already had support for GPS in the programs framework.

When Microsoft went down the track of APPS for Win10, they didn't build in support for GPS. It is illogical, but it is a fact. There is nothing EO can do to simplify Traveller's interface with a GPS in Win10 until Microsoft does something about it within the bowels of Windows.

I have used a Duel Bluetooth GPS since the start of Win10. I have never had a problem with it. Here is a link to the unit.https://www.dualgpssolutions.com/explore-by-product/xgps150a
Chris

I have continued looking at Samsung Galaxy Tab Android tablets.
Since people seem happy with the S7 I have focussed on that, actually the S7+ as I have room and prefer a 12.4" size.

They seem pretty expensive but JB-HiFi is full of phones up to $2,500 so what would I know about inflation?
There are hits regarding remarketed models of the S7+ at more reasonable prices, but . . .

Anyhow, one source alluded to the point that whilst you get to choose a WiFi model; or a 5G model (that happens to have WiFi too ffs), and that only the 5G model has a true GPS!!!

Do you think that I can find verification of this anywhere?? Nup!!
I do not need another monthly SIM charge when we are happy to hot-spot off our phones for Internet, so the extra $300 to get a "5G" equivalent S7+ tablet would be wasted if the story is not true (as I would get the cheaper "WiFi" model - if it too has a true GPS).

Curiously, a bit of research showed up that the Galileo GPS system based in Europe is new and offers a much greater accuracy than the (old) American GPS system and the Russian Glonass, so that would be a really good thing to include in any device specification as it would also prove that the technology is new and might have a better chance of supporting Microsoft Windows v10. Sort of.

Back to searching for that specific GPS information about the Samsung Tab S7+ . . .
Model T976B is the "5G" (and WiFi) - there are several configurations of RAM (6 or 8GB) and Storage
Model T970N is the "WiFi" - there are several configurations of RAM (6 or 8GB) and Storage
These models also support adding up to 1,000GB mSD card for storage!

Apparently an app called GPStest is free and will declare much information about an installed GPS, and useful info including sunrise and sunset times. Not sure if it says if Galileo is supported or not though.

I hope that this info helps anyone else following along with this discussion.

Jim

LOL! But these are some reasons that come to mind regarding sunrise times:
* You might be a fisherman and consider it important to know. And have driven many hundreds of km east or west from a mountainous region to a flat area.
* As a photographer I like to be sure so that I can get the pre-sunrise shots!
* To defer the "we gotta have a freecamp sorted by 4pm", by saying "two hours before sunset is what is most important"!
* Double checking before heading off for a long walk . . .

It does get confusing when driving east to west, as I had to drive from Perth to Victoria in a hurry for a funeral once, found it quite confusing with the weirdness of time-zones as well, doing about 900km/day.

Cheers,

Jim

Managed to snag a T976 for $1,399 from https://www.mobileciti.com.au/pre-owned/l/manufacturer:samsung. It was cheaper to buy that (with a SIM slot) than to buy a new "WiFi" model.
It is "white box - refurbished - as new".
I just checked and they have nil stock now so I may have got an only one.
Worth keeping an eye on the link to see if they get more.
I'll report back if I have problems. Won't be for a week though as I have used a shipping address well ahead of my travels.

Thanks all, for your help on this - much appreciated.

Jim