R&R Beadbreaker vs Tyrepliers!

Submitted: Tuesday, Jun 29, 2004 at 23:14
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I recently asked a similar question regarding UHF Radios, the response was very helpful.

So, here we go again, which is the better tyre repair tool, R&R Beadbreaker or Tyrepliers?
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Jun 29, 2004 at 23:56

Tuesday, Jun 29, 2004 at 23:56
I would say that the R&R Beadbreaker is probably easier to operate. I have had Tyrepliers for the past 12 years and they work well for me and I have the knack of working them. Of course I must qualify my statement by saying that I run split rims. I probably would not want to stuff around with any of the makes with solid rims.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:03

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:03
Dont always get a choice in the bush Willem as you would know.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:11

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:11
Sorry Pesty, you have lost me...its late....what don't I have a choice about?
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:22

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:22
The last line in your responce, you may not get a choice about stuffing around with solid rim tyre repairs.
If its late why arent you in bed before you turn into a pumpkin, LOL, Im not far away?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:08

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:08
Pesty...it was late but I was in bed before Pumpkin time though I did listen to the news . But I beg to differ about choices. The choice is to run splits..................:-)
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Reply By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Tuesday, Jun 29, 2004 at 23:59

Tuesday, Jun 29, 2004 at 23:59
SHMBO and I watched the demo's at one of the shows and she actually made up my mind with the statement that which one will you be able to use when retired as it is one of those tools you only buy once. The tyre pliers are quicker but require more effort and the R&R is slower but required less effort, and you need to use tyre leavers with both.
We paid the extra and bought the R&R kit and added some more bits and it is great. I run a small fleet of vehicles and I repair all my own flats now and have saved more than half the original price already in 12 months or so. Go with the R&R kit and if you are not in a hurry they usually have specials at the 4wd shows.
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Reply By: ExplorOz - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:02

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:02
I have used the R&R Beadbreaker and recommended to a mate who has since bought one as well as swears by it. Very easy to use after watching the instruction video.

The true advantage of the Beadbreaker is in the way the tool is used to put the tyre back on the rim (no need for a rubber hammer).
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Reply By: desray - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:07

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:07
I would have to agree with Willem the R&r Beadbreaker are easier to use. The Tyrepliers are very old tech I used to use them back in the late 1950s,they dug into the rims then , also make a mess of alloy rims
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Reply By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:39

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 00:39
I have not actually tried it but the method of using the vehicle jack on the tyre wall and under the towbar appeals to me to break the bead. I have Alloy rims and would be reluctant to use the tyreplier type tools as I have heard they really can damage the rim. Also one less thing to carry around!

Having said that the next task is to get the tyre off the rim but from what I have seen this is pretty easy with a basic lever such as a pinch bar and maybe a small piece of carpet under it to protect the rim.

Again, I have not actually done this myself so may be talking crap! I intend to practise this shortly to "educate" myself and may relay my experiences after the event! My next tyre rotation is due and i am going to ask my tyre dealer to show me some pointers on emergency tyre repair when away from facilities.

Cheers
Steven
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:32

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:32
Use the high lift Jack alll the time , takes more time to unbolt the jack , that what it takes to pop the bead
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Reply By: Member - Jack - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 07:08

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 07:08
Here is a link to the Landcruiser site showing how to make up a bead breaker using a bottle jack and your tow bar. I have tyrepliers (unused) and this one. Dead easy.
Click here
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 22:49

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 22:49
Very interesting! .... Thank you.
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Reply By: Member - John - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 07:09

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 07:09
I have the Tyre Pliers and have found them to be very good. I have also made up a rim holder that attaches to the bull bar. Using the long lever available from Tyre Pliers, way too bloddy expensive, but it makes tyre changing a pleasure, very easy to remove and refit tyres. Hope this helps?
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Follow Up By: Member Eric - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:31

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:31
welcome home . how was it ?
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Follow Up By: Willem - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:13

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 11:13
Eric....I think you meant Member-John(Vic).....see its your typing again...maybe you should take a secretarial course...hahahahahahaha
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Reply By: srowlandson - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:12

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 08:12
I have the tyre pliers, and find tyre levering the tyre off the rim a lot harder than breaking the bead.

i don't like the R&R as it takes too long... and find the Tyrepliers just as easy...

I am a long way frlom retirement :)

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Reply By: Rod W - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 09:51

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 09:51
R&R beadbreaker. So easy.
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Reply By: Geoff-2 - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 18:20

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 18:20
I have had the tyrepliers for about 12yrs and if anyone wants to swap me for an R/R beadbreaker (yes please) NO COMPARISION. the R/R IS THE Rolls Royce.
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Follow Up By: pjd - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 22:07

Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 22:07
the tyrepliers cant be to bad then if you hate them and still use them after 12 years i would have swaped no given you an r&r [ruff & rugged] i borrowed off aso called mate.after 10 minutes of trying to work out how to use it [didnt have the tv & video on the canning] broke 2 welds 20mins latter after a bush weld job managed to repair it & then fix the tyre. In darwin tried 4 a warranty no go because we welded it.Near broome got another flat, having used it once not much easier 2nd time round oiled the useless thread as you should got dirt & grit in thread & started to strip should be high tensile but even it will still wear out[cant happen with tyrepliers]when we got 2 broome i did my mate a favor tossed r&r in dump master & bought KIT 100 tyrepliers the guy in the shop was kind enough to give me a demo [CHEERS] used it 3 more times on the way back home & i no what i will be using in 12 years time & it wont be the r&r boat anchor .ps no damadge on the prado alloys & very easy to use & at $200 cheaper why waste time & money
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Follow Up By: Geoff-2 - Friday, Jul 16, 2004 at 20:29

Friday, Jul 16, 2004 at 20:29
pjd
Sounds like you had ableepof a run with r/r I'd throw the(b)away too
would it have made a difference if you had the video, iv'e struck a couple of tyres that the tyreplyers would not budge, I'm 6ft and 120kgs
Geoff-2
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Reply By: michael - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 20:00

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 20:00
I have the R&R Bead breaker but apart from a struggle with a worn 235/85/16 on steel nissan rim in the backyard I have not used it in the bush. Research told me it was the best option but my technique definitely needs honing. I just followed the written instructions but I'm thinking maybe the instruction video would have been beneficial.
If anyone out there has a video gathering dust I would be interested in negotiating to our mutual benefit.
Cheers,
Michael
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Reply By: Shaker - Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 22:46

Wednesday, Jun 30, 2004 at 22:46
Thank you once again for the help ..... looks like R & R Beadbreaker wins hands down.
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Reply By: Bitsumishin - Mike A (WA) - Thursday, Jul 01, 2004 at 09:14

Thursday, Jul 01, 2004 at 09:14
R&R are better if you have plenty of time but Tyrepliers do the job just fine. Cost is the other consideration. I bought Tyrepliers for a trip to Steep point, tested them once at home but didn't need them again. I'd sell them for well under new price if you're interested.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:27

Thursday, Jul 01, 2004 at 11:27
Thanks Mike, could you email some details please.
patrol6@ozemail.com.au

Paul.
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