Caravan heating options
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 25, 2021 at 22:35
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Member - Wooly
Hi all,
my wife and I have the chance to slip away for a few days in our single axle van but as yet we don't have a heater set up in it.
I will not have time to install a gas or diesel heater so what would you suggest as an alternative?
What about those small free standing gas heaters like these?
https://www.outbackequipment.com.au/~144293
Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2021 at 22:56
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2021 at 22:56
Effective but dangerous in a closed space. You might go to sleep and not wake up again.
Gas heaters produce carbon monoxide which is poisonous. If they are unventilated and unflued, such as the model you propose, the Carbon monoxide can build up in your closed environment. First you go to sleep and then as you continue breathing in your slumber it poisons you.
If you must do it, provide adequate ventilation - lots of it.
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Follow Up By: Member - Wooly - Wednesday, Aug 25, 2021 at 23:01
Wednesday, Aug 25, 2021 at 23:01
Thanks Frank,
I would be thinking to run it for 3 or 4 hours before retiring for the night and turn it off when going to bed.
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Follow Up By: tim_c - Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:04
Wednesday, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:04
And CO is odourless, so you won't even know it's there.
To run any sort of combustion heater, unless externally flued, would require the space to be ventilated to the extent that you'd be replacing the air as fast as you could heat it (download the owner's manual for the portable gas heater and have a read through the ventilation requirements).
Heat some water on the stove and pour it into a couple of hot water bottles.
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Reply By: RMD - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 00:05
Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 00:05
Wooly
As Frank has mentioned, the CO is the problem. Even if you use it in the van it is just plain dangerous anyway re, radiant heat and risk of fire. If you survive that, then the CO will still be present and build up and even if awake it will make you very unwell as it poisons your system. You may even fall asleep and it continues to gas you. Although heavier than air as such, the convection air currents will deliver the CO right to where you are. Not an option in a van.
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Reply By: Erad - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 08:11
Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 08:11
Carbon monoxide (C0) produced by burning LPG is heavier than air and it will build up at lower levels. It displaces oxygen in the air you breathe, and simply suffocates you. Nasty indeed. You say that you will run the heater for a few hours, then turn it off and go to bed. Bed is normally lower than your normal sitting head level, and you could
well be laying down into a CO rich atmosphere. Un-flued heaters are banned in households because of the CO problems, even though the gas is different, but to use an un-flued heater in an enclosed space such as a tent or a caravan is deadly.
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Reply By: Member - Wooly - Sunday, Aug 29, 2021 at 19:50
Sunday, Aug 29, 2021 at 19:50
OK, I get the CO2 thing.
Better to be safe than sorry and survive the journey.
A couple of extra blankets and a bottle of Stones Green Ginger (or equivalent) have been added to the list.
Lucky for us the forecast is for chilly overnight but not extreme cold.
After a bit of research I think a Webasto diesel heater will be the go for us.
Hope to be ready for next trip
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Monday, Aug 30, 2021 at 16:40
Monday, Aug 30, 2021 at 16:40
CO2 (carbon dioxide) is the greenhouse environmental thing.
It is CO (carbon monoxide) that kills you.
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