2006 Campomatic XTC rim specs

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 07:49
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G'day All

Just purchased a 2006 Campomatic and wondering if someone has one[Image cannot be loaded] or did have one that could tell me the rim offset and stud pattern ? I cannot find any stampings on the rims due to age and surface rust etc They are 16 inch 5 stud. I would like to replace them with something else

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Gazz
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Reply By: RMD - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 08:33

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 08:33
Gazz
I don't have a rim but it looks like a rim from an early Mazda ute which, I think, had 5 studs and 16". Maybe a motor wreckers in a country town might have similar/same.

Measuring the width of the rim to find centre and then from that plane to the inner face plane is the offset. If inward it is NEGATIVE and if outward it is POSITIVE offset.
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:05

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:05
G'day RMD

I could take the tyre of the spare and measure the offset as you suggested but will probably use that as a last resort - still need the stud pattern before I can start shopping online for new rims.

Thanks for replying
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Gazz
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 18:21

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 18:21
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No need to take a tyre off, simply measure at the roll over, ie bead position, at each side. Mark middle of rim, and the mounting face of wheel, at the rim, will be a able to be measured from the centre. While you are at it. Trace the holes onto paper and the centre of stud hole will be a common pitch diameter. Knowing that you can use the info or simply take the wheel to a tyre dealer for ID. The net has stud pattern info you can use.
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 18:33

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 18:33
RMD

all good mate have got it sorted - with the tyre on !
Spent 50 years of my life measuring stuff so worked it out.

Was hoping to get some alloy rims but found out today that manufacturers stopped making that size PCD and offset years ago !

Thanks for your help

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Gazz

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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:02

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 09:02
Hi Gazz,

Wouldn’t you be better contacting the manufacturer and asking them? You say it is a campomatic, is that a Cub Campomatic?

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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:15

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:15
G'day Macca

Campomatic were bought out by Trak Shak many years ago and they went belly up !

I maybe wrong but I don't believe Cub and Campomatic are the same .

Did a fair bit of research online but all I can find is tyre size which obviously I have.


Thanks for the reply

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Gazz
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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:18

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:18
Gazz,

If you can accurately measure the centre-to-centre distance between two adjacent studs, then the diameter of the PCD circle for a 5 stud pattern is that measurement multiplied by 1.7.

eg, say the studs are 120mm apart. The PCD circle diameter is 120 x 1.7 = 204mm

There could be a decimal point in it, but depending on the accuracy of your measurements that formula will give a result close enough to a standard for a wheel shop to work with.

Can't help you with offset, sorry.



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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:32

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 11:32
Thanks Frank

That's very helpful - so with RMD's help and your tip I can now sort this out !

And a little tip for anyone wanting to measure between two holes to get a centre to centre measurement - measuring from the outside of one hole to the inside of the other is more accurate than trying to hold a tape or ruler over the centre of two holes IMO !

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Gazz
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:45

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:45
Ummm... Gazz, I think you should measure from, say the right side of one hole to the right side of the hole to the right, if you get what I mean.

Outside of one to inside of the next will give a large error.

You can check your work. Do a centre to centre measurement as accurately as you can. Your edge of hole to edge of hole should be within a couple of mm of that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 13:15

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 13:15
Frank

Part of my job is to bolt things with holes at each end to walls and floors and this is how we've done it for years when we don't have a template.

Could be my wording is wrong - left of one hole to left of the other ?

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 13:48

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 13:48
Sorry Gazz, didn't mean to patronise, just wanted to be clear and not lead you up the garden path.

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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 15:47

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 15:47
All good Frank

Looks like I'm stuck with steel rims due to stud pattern and offset


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Gazz


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Reply By: Member - David M (SA) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:26

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:26
Just some think else to think about Gazz. Had the same problem on my Caravan, no markings. Took rusty rim into B/S and they measured for offset but could not find a identical match. They found 2 rims, one 5mm one way and one 10mm other. They did what they thought was the right thing and supplied the closest, 5mm. On fitting I found the tyre was to close to the chassis. Refitted on the 10mm and all OK.
Good service from Bridgestone.
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:45

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 12:45
Update

So I've worked out they are 16 x 8 - 5/150 with 60mm positive offset.

Then I stumbled across a set of identical rims for sale that came off a 100 series !

Then searched 100 series wheel specs and voila - there they are !!


Thanks heaps guys !!

Cheers
Gazz
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Reply By: Member - reggy 2 (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 20:47

Thursday, Aug 26, 2021 at 20:47
Check add on this site in classifieds mags $400 of 200 series they have 5 stud i think are same as 100 series but 18 inch if u have room.cheers
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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 09:00

Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 09:00
The rims PCD etc depend on the pattern on the drum.
I assume ALKO parallel hubs with 10 inch drums as Campomatic fitted parallel hubs to all campers.
So you can buy any stud pattern you want from ALKO .
There are a couple of provisos
All ALKO hubs have imperial threads so if you need specific nuts for mag wheels you may not be able to get nuts to fit. There is a company on Ebay that does Nissan mag wheel nuts with imperial threads so maybe they will be available. You should check before committing to Mags.
If you are trying to match to your car wheels you may find if it is modern that the hole in the centre is too small to fit over the hub. The only answer here is spacer/converters that switch one PCD to another.
I recently sold my 1998 Camp'o'matic and had a LOT of hassle fitting mags to match my car.
Unless you are doing it for cosmetic reasons , you should also look at the weight saving.
I am looking at mags for my new/old caravan and when I looked at weights there was very little in it.


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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 13:11

Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 13:11
Cheers for that Phil !


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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 15:53

Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 15:53
BTW your Camp'o'matic most probably originally came with Sunraysia style white steel wheels and a Previous owner switched them to match their car. Most will have a 139.5MM 6 stud pattern as that suits Land Cruisers and Nissan Patrols .

If you want mags you will also have to consider backspacing. The Sunraysias on my Coromal Caravan are 0 Backspacing but mags on independent suspension cars are usually positive 20-30MM or more which may cause interference with the inner guards.

My daughter currently has a 2004? XTC and that is what is on that with a swing away rear wheel system.
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 16:42

Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 16:42
G'day Phil

I'd be happy with a set of white sunraysia wheels but can't get them in 5 stud and offset to suit.

The pic of the wheel in my first post is the wheel on the trailer and as you can see it's 5 stud. I also looked at Campomatics for sale and old reviews with a few also having the same rims - I believe they are 100 series steel wheels. I'm just trying to tidy the camper up a bit and make it look newer as the missus is disappointed I didn't buy the $700,000 Winnebago she saw on the net !! So the rims will be getting sand blasted and powder coated - possibly that original silver or just white.

Thanks for the reply

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Gazz

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Reply By: Rangiephil - Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 20:28

Friday, Aug 27, 2021 at 20:28
The old bloke who owned Campomatic must have got a special from Toyota dealers who swapped to mags.LOL

My daughter tells me that the bloke who used to do the canvas for Campomatic is still in business up at Yatala Qld where they were made. Everything used to be made in situ.

I don't know if the later ones like yours are the same but for my independent suspension , he even made the stub axles as the thread pitch on the nuts is different to ALKO.
At one stage they were made in China but then reverted back to OZ later when Trak Shak took over.
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Saturday, Aug 28, 2021 at 08:26

Saturday, Aug 28, 2021 at 08:26
G'day Phil

I contacted someone who is selling a 2004 Campomatic XTC and asked if they wouldn't mind telling me the rim size etc - turns out his is 6 stud 139.5 with +40mm offset.

So I'm wondering whether people who purchased them new could ask to have the trailer fitted with the same rims as their vehicle - just a thought.

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Gazz
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Saturday, Aug 28, 2021 at 09:56

Saturday, Aug 28, 2021 at 09:56
"So I'm wondering whether people who purchased them new could ask to have the trailer fitted with the same rims as their vehicle - just a thought."

Kimberley Kampers does that with its products. The different offsets mean different stub axles to make the wheels fit the body.

It follows that if the tow vehicle is changed for whatever reason - an upgrade or change of ownership - new trailer wheels to match the new tug may not be possible.
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Reply By: Nomadic Navara - Saturday, Aug 28, 2021 at 22:16

Saturday, Aug 28, 2021 at 22:16
There are a couple of downloads you can get from the "Literature" tab on the Al-Ku Aust site-

WHEEL STUDS & NUTS WHEEL STUDS & NUTS

AL-KO STUD PATTERN CHART - This one has instructions on how to calculate the PCD by measuring the centre distance between two adjacent studs.



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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Sunday, Aug 29, 2021 at 08:37

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Cheers for that Peter !

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