Bourke or Burke ? Which is correct?

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:33
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Hi All
Being one to sometimes spell place names incorrectly I make an effort now to proof read & check before I post.

This post is regarding the road from Chillagoe QLD to Karumba QLD which I recently travelled.

Just noticed that EO Topo Maps show it as "BOURKE DEVELOPMENT ROAD"
Google Maps show it as "BURKE DEVELOPMENTAL ROAD"

So which one is correct?

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Paul
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:41

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:41
Hi Paul,

I believe the town was named for Robert O’Hara Burke, so this spelling would be the correct some.

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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:50

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:50
Hi Macca
I thought that too
I’m hoping so as I used that spelling on a video I’m putting together atm
So Eo Topo looks like it’s marked incorrectly
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Follow Up By: Member - DickyBeach - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:58

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 10:58
You'd better get onto the Geographical Names Board of NSW and correct them.
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:24

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:24
DickyBeach

Not sure why you said to go to that link?

Each state is only responsible for names within their own state.

Do you know the road is in Queensland, therefore nothing to do with New South Wales.

Thislink will show you where it is
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Follow Up By: Member - DickyBeach - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:00

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:00
Well Stephen I STUFFED UP.

My apologies - I'll have to read more carefully in future.

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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 14:07

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 14:07
All good Dicky, you could have thought it was near Bourke in NSW.

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Follow Up By: Member - DickyBeach - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 14:27

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 14:27
Stephen,

I've since opened your link and now remember that I've driven that road at least 4 times - once with the RedeX Bash around 1979 and a three times since.

And, with the benefit of hindsight, I agree with Paul that, as that town was named after Robert O'H Burke, the spelling is correct.

Wikipedia tells me that " .... It was not until the mid-1800s following a visit by colonial surveyor and explorer Sir Thomas Mitchell in 1835 that settlement of the area began. Following tensions with the local people Mitchell built a small stockade to protect his men and named it Fort Bourke after then Governor Sir Richard Bourke. "

Lesson learned.
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:14

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:14
It’s all a little bit tricky, as it is pretty easy to think that Bourke is a town named after Robert O’Hara ……… but it isn’t.

“Following tensions with the local people Mitchell built a small stockade to protect his men and named it Fort Bourke after then Governor Sir Richard Bourke. “

So the town of Bourke is named after the governor of the time, not after the explorer.

The Burke Development Road is named after Robert O’Hara Burke, the explorer.

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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:39

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:39
I think Macca was referring to Burketown. Being named after Robert O’Hara Burke Not Bourke
Have been to Bourke many times over the years. Also visited the Stockade.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:59

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:59
Correct Paul.

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Reply By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:18

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:18
Unfortunately the EO TOPO is wrong.

I have just checked with 3 other reputable map producers, ie Hema, Westprint and the original Auslig and it is listed as the Burke Development Road.

Also years ago when we were in Chillageo the sign clearly showed “Burke”
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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:26

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:26
This link may be of interest to you Paul, clearly showing the correct name and spelling

Burke Development Road
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:42

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:42
Thanks Stephen
I did go with Burke in my video so all good
Had me thinking though
So I asked the question to confirm
Thanks for the info
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:03

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:03
EOTopo 2021:



but then there's an apparent misspelling north of the Gilbert River :-(
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:10

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:10
Hi Frank
That’s a different road
Runs south from Burketown
The one marked incorrectly as Bourke Development Rd runs from Chillagoe to Karumba
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:40

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:40
So it does. One for D&M to fix next edition, I suppose.
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 09:54

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 09:54
Interesting...I suspect the road label error has originated on OSM.. as this is the main data source for such details.

If someone fixes the error on OSM it will automatically be picked up in our next data conflation.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:15

Thursday, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:15
If it was ever wrong on OSM it seems to have been corrected sometime before today (16th Sept)
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Reply By: Member - David M (SA) - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:37

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:37
The person at EO Topo Maps responsible for spelling Burke Bourke is a Burk.
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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:24

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:24
David
Could be a Berk., as in short for Berserk. usually on here, no one worries as long as they think they understand. "Yous" all know that!
Now was that Nuriootpa or Nurioopta?
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:37

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 12:37
Glenantipy. Or Gelantipy

Got picked up on that one a while back
Maybe it’s made me paranoid
Ha!

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Follow Up By: Stephen L (Clare) SA - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 14:10

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 14:10
RMS

us local South Aussies just say Nuri and every one knows where you are talking about.

As for the correct spelling, you were right on the first one
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Follow Up By: RMD - Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 19:20

Tuesday, Sep 14, 2021 at 19:20
Stephen L
My Dad always made sure of spelling and early on he made issue of people who said "oopta" and mentioned they were not correct and didn't care. Some even got Clare wrong because of their girlfriend Claire. Shea- Oak Log must fox a few.
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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 10:20

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 10:20
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"Strzelecki" gets me every time!!!

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Follow Up By: Member - David M (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:32

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 11:32
Try pronouncing Dunolly wrongly in the bakery and see how you go. :)
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:22

Wednesday, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:22
Kozziosko LOL. Sorry, Kosciuszko (I had to look it up, it gets me every time!)

Or as my Polish maths lecturer of many years ago pronounced it, Koz-choos-ko.

Pronunciation link.
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