Hitch C/Over Trigg to DO35
Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 12:16
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pmk03
Hi All
Just looking for advice to a possible issue I will have changing my old worn out Trigg Hitch poly block to a Cruisemaster DO35.
All's going
well but the mounting bolts for the DO35 are 12mm & the exisiting holes in the plate on the drawbar are 14mm (to suit the old Trigg)
What options do I have here? Is it OK to just bolt it up or do I need some sort of modification to the mounting plate?
Hoping someone here has already had this issue and a solution.
Thanks in Advance
Paul
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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 14:04
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 14:04
I wouldn't just bolt it up.
You could use some top-hat washers, aka shoulder washers, 14mm od, 12mm id, depth the thickness of the mounting plate. Mount them under the plate so the hitch sits on the plate, not on the washers, and use nyloc nuts on the bolts. You might have to get the washers made.
Or you could have a new plate welded above or below the old one and drill it accordingly.
They are my DIY thoughts. I'd
check the rules and make sure they are ok.
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 14:25
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 14:25
Hi Frank
The washers seem like a good idea, I was thinking something like that myself. Would have to see if I can find any. The only problem I can see with that is that the centres of the original holes aren't perfect. Plus the washers would only be 1mm thick to fit. Might struggle to even get them in.
I did fit the DO35 to
test fit & had to wiggle it a little to get the 12mm bolts through. Once it was flat on the base plate it fitted tight with nearly no movement......
I would fit nyloc nuts as standard. The bolts & nylocs are supplied in the package with the hitch.
The new plate welded below sounds like a good idea also. Might have to run this past a few caravan repairers or the local engineering
shop.
Thanks for the ideas.
Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - silkwood - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 17:12
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 17:12
The only insert reducers I've ever seen are a maximum of two sizes down (14mm to 10mm, 10mm to 6mm). Would it be possible to use a 14mm to 1mm insert then drill it out to fit the 12mm, forming a (admittedly slim) sleeve? If not, welding and re-drilling the 14mm holes to suit the 12mm bolts? I've welded up worn threads before, then drilled and re-tapped. Not pretty (but neither is my welding!)...
Cheers,
Mark
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 19:48
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 19:48
Hi Mark,
I Rang Cruisemaster & was advised by them to weld up the exisiting holes & re drill at 12mm.
Tomorrow I will go down & see the local engineering mob & see if they can do it for me.
Getting the van down there without a hitch attached ........ Now there's another problem.
Will put the trigg back on for the trip down & fit the DO35 there I guess.
Thanks for the info.
Cheers
Paul
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Follow Up By: RMD - Thursday, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:10
Thursday, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:10
WHat is wrong with getting/sourcing some thin walled steel tube and cutting lengths the same as the OE plate plate thickness, Use the 12mm Bolts and tighten them. Why would it not work? The plate is clamped and should NEVER move to even begin to cause any side force on the tube spacers.
Absolutely Crazy welding the plate and then redrilling. Rocks in head there. All you will have done is cause fracture stresses in the OE plate and quite possible a failure of that plate and hitch area under off road conditions. As with a medical procedure/doctor, if in doubt, GET A SECOND OPINION.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Thursday, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:38
Thursday, Dec 16, 2021 at 12:38
See section 5, tube as described in the post below.
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Thursday, Dec 16, 2021 at 14:10
Thursday, Dec 16, 2021 at 14:10
Hi RMD
Yep! I did just that, Spoke to local engineering place & they suggested the tubing reducer method too.
Thats what I have done & it worked
well & was easy to do.
Funny, I did mention the clamping effect onto the plate but I guess Cruisemaster are just covering their backsides......
I was concerned about welding causing other issues with the mounting plate also.
So glad I went the sleeve way
Cheers
Paul
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Reply By: Member - Warren H - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 22:07
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 22:07
Absolutely no mechanical engineering background for me, but two thoughts:
(i) 14mm bolt through the mounting plate (head at the bottom) re-threaded to 12mm where it enters the DO35, or resized on a lathe and rethreaded if it's not a good idea to have the thread going through DO35 plate;
(ii) Drill out the DO35 plate to 14mm.
This has been a useful thread for me as I have been contemplating exactly the same move to replace the Tregg with a McHitch drop on which also has 12mm bolts. I had checked that the hole spacings were the same and hadn't even thought about the actual bolt size. Out with the calipers tomorrow!
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Follow Up By: pmk03 - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 22:16
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 22:16
Well no engineering background here either.....
I would think that modifying the DO35 in any way would probably be bending some rules/standards
But thanks for your comments
Cheers
Paul
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 22:41
Wednesday, Dec 15, 2021 at 22:41
How about steel tube as a spacer? Atlas steel has carbon steel tube 13.7mm od, wall thickness 1.65mm.
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