Carrying Jerry Cans

Submitted: Sunday, Mar 06, 2022 at 22:32
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Hi all,
I am heading across the Simpson and will need to carry at least two of the plastic Jerry cans somehow on or in my vehicle. My Triton Ute has roof racks that are rated to 50kgs off road so putting them up there will mean not much else can go up. I also don’t have the ability to put them on the back either.

I have a couple of questions;

1. Can they go in the back of my Ute, secured properly of course, it has a canopy etc or is that a problem? I have been told they should not be carried in there.

2. Will also have a fridge in the back of the canopy also, is that a problem with fumes or leakage etc?? Again I have been told this is a problem?

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Reply By: Member - Wooly - Sunday, Mar 06, 2022 at 23:43

Sunday, Mar 06, 2022 at 23:43
Hi Dave,

I would think they would be fine inside the canopy if they are diesel.

Trick is to put the contents in the fuel tank as soon as there is room for them, like when you get down to 3/4 or thereabouts.

Then you could put the empty's on the roof.
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Reply By: Member - Core420 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 07:01

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 07:01
I regularly carry 20 liters of diesel in the canopy, securely strapped and use it to top up the main tank whenever we stop.
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Reply By: Genny - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:26

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:26
Will two be enough?
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Follow Up By: David S92 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:42

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:42
Yes it should be as I have a 120lt long range tank so with the two Jerry’s that makes 160
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Follow Up By: Member - William B - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:50

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:50
Hi,
I would suggest 40 litres to be not enough in my opinion.
I don't think there is enough in reserve.
580 kilometers with 115 liters at 15 to 20 L/100 k's. (Average is 91 L as per this site)
Something to think about.
I agree to use the Jerry cans as soon as you can.
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Follow Up By: David S92 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:54

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 13:54
Hi William
I will have 160lts, 120 in the long range tank and 40 in Jerry cans. 160ltr not enough?
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Follow Up By: Member - William B - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 14:06

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 14:06
Sorry David,
I missed the post about the long range tank.
I think you have it covered.
I have a MQ triton, what tank did you fit?
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Follow Up By: David S92 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 15:24

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 15:24
Hi William
To be honest I can’t remember but it was from ARB as I got a show discount. Tank has been fine but the fitting wasn’t great as the float mechanism doesn’t work correctly when the tank is full. I have an MQ 2017 Triton and it has been really good, just the float issue.
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Follow Up By: Member - William B - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:11

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:11
Thank you David.
I've gone from a Prado with 180 L
to the Triton , I have range anxiety now.
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Reply By: 2517. - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 15:26

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 15:26
Hi ,a trick with Jerrycans is to wraps carpet around them and put some tape to hold it on this will save them from rubbing. It amuse me when you see Jerrycans on roof racks with no carpet I would like to the mess after traveling rough roads.You will have heap of fuel to cross the Simpson.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:46

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:46
I have been carrying "Fuel Safe" (made in Australia by Rheem) plastic jerries on my trailer for over 20 years.
They are held down with light chain. There is no protection between them and the trailer (or each other).
In 1999, I rolled this trailer on the GRR with some jerries inside. A spring broke and punched a hole in the steel floor of the trailer directly into the bottom of a jerry. It sustained a scratch and is still completely usable to this day.

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Follow Up By: 2517. - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:57

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:57
Yes there are always exceptions.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:04

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:04
No jerry of mine has suffered any damage in over 20 years of off road use without "protection" of any kind.
I don't call that an "exemption".
These things are made to an exacting standard from cross linked HD poyethylene. They are TOUGH.
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Follow Up By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 19:48

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 19:48
He said exceptions, Peter, not exemptions LOL.

Agree about Rheem jerrycans, the most robust one can buy! Have seen them swollen up like a watermelon in midday sun & no leaks. This is after being assaulted by jackaroos, jillaroos & large rolls of barb wire.
Definitely the best!

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 20:13

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 20:13
Thanks for pointing out my typo. :)
I must admit that most of my experience is with the Rheem product and I would only buy that brand, but I once did pick up one on the Kalumburu Road. It was 2/3rds full and had clearly fallen off a vehicle. It had a couple of scuff marks and was structurally still quite sound.
That said, they all need that toughness to be approved for sale in this country.
I would like to hear about failures, for any reason, with any brand.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 14:08

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 14:08
My experience with the Rheem jerrycans is the same , you can’t kill them and they don’t leak. I have the black ones with they note as Heavy duty but see they do cheaper ones as well in red and yellow
Assume they have lighter sidewalls ?
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Follow Up By: tim_c - Friday, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:39

Friday, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:39
I replaced my black Rheem jerries with red ones (forget what brand, but they are still quite tough) - the main reason was because the pourers for the red ones are stored inside the jerry when closed (unlike the Rheem ones that store in the handle, but exposed) - this keeps them cleaner, and significantly reduces fumes if carrying them in the back of a station wagon.
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Mar 12, 2022 at 08:20

Saturday, Mar 12, 2022 at 08:20
Yes a valid point, I used to keep the filler spout in a ziplock bag in my wheel rubbish bag side pocket. Out of the 4 Rheem jerries I only have one filler spout left, I have slowly lost them :(
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:21

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:21
G'day David

On my last trip across the Simpson my friends in a 100% stock MQ Triton went from Oodnadatta to Birdsville on the standard tank plus one 20 litre jerry can. My way overloaded Ranger with a 140 litre tank took 125 litres at Birsdville for the same route straight across.

The main reason people should have extra fuel is in case of unexpected detours due to weather or whatever.

Enjoy your trip

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Follow Up By: David S92 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:23

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 16:23
Many thanks
Any issues with carrying Jerry’s in the back under the canopy???
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Follow Up By: Member - rocco2010 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:09

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:09
David

Main problem I had with jerrycans in the back of my Ranger (no canopy) was lifting the bloody things over the side of the tub!

Strapped them down, jammed plenty of gear around them and they never leaked.

I don’t know where you plan to refuel but I used only 70 litres for the about 550km from Birdsville to Mt Dare.

Enjoy it. Desert should be lush this year.
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:40

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:40
" Any issues with carrying Jerry’s in the back under the canopy??? "

None whatsoever over 16 years in my last two utes with canopies.
Just make sure you have good quality ones and have them secured so they don't move around too much and as others have said using them asap is the go !

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Follow Up By: David S92 - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:47

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:47
Thanks Gazz!
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:49

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 17:49
If you take one of the gerry cans to bunnings you will be able to see if 2 fit in any of the heavy duty tubs they sell. Thats how I use to carry half a dozen gerry cans when heading out bush and needed extra fuel.
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Follow Up By: Gbc.. - Friday, Mar 11, 2022 at 12:28

Friday, Mar 11, 2022 at 12:28
Re- Jerry cans in ranger tub:

I kept my jerries in the front left hand corner of the tub of my last ranger and used a jiggler syphon through the canopy window to drain them. I could also fill them in that position. I left the dregs until I was desperate, got home or just refilled them. No heavy lifting or getting (too) dirty. Hope that helps someone.
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Reply By: Member - Barry P (VIC) - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 19:47

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 19:47
if you get your self an air pump to fit your jerry can, no heavy lifting then saves your back, cant remember the name at the moment, somebody will know
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Follow Up By: Gbc.. - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 07:10

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 07:10
Tanami pump
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Follow Up By: Member - John - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 07:15

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 07:15
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:41

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:41
Most people use plastic jerry cans these days and I think the tanami pump is only suitable for the older style metal ones - I could be wrong but someone on here will know for sure !

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Follow Up By: Gbc.. - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:03

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 09:03
Yep, they have a different named pump for each different style jerry can. That is the main reason i have stuck with a jiggler siphon - one siphon fits all.
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 20:07

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 20:07
I’ve carried up to 4 jerrycans full of diesel in my canopy, during numerous trips across the Simpson, as well as a Canning trip. The only leakage was with human intervention!

On our last trip into the Simpson, I also carried 4 Penrite 10L oil bottles, that I filled in Kulgera. These were for an extension on the trip that didn’t eventuate. Certainly easier to handle when full and being square, are easy to tie down, and together.



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Follow Up By: Allan B (Sunshine Coast) - Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 21:08

Monday, Mar 07, 2022 at 21:08
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Bob, I stopped carrying engine oil on the roof rack after one got pierced by an overhanging tree and dribbled litres of oil down into the sliding window tracks. No need to detail the cleanup procedure!
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Reply By: Alan H11 - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:16

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 08:16
1) Consumption (petrol not diesel): We used our Montero 3.8 L. Because this engine is not sold now in Australia, and because few people seem to use this model (equivalent to a Pajero) in Australia, we found it tough to get insight into the probable fuel consumption. Experience in deserts elsewhere in the world led us to conclude that we would need to plan on 25-50% higher consumption than on tarmac. We saw advice online ranging from 50-100% higher consumption. At Mount Dare the advice was to plan on 50% higher than "normal" and to plan on the possibility of taking the longest route (770 Km), since the shortest route was badly chopped up when we were crossing.

So, we calculated needing around 195 L of petrol. The tank holds 88 L, and we had cans for another 100 L, so we bought one more and left Mount Dare with 208 L. We ended up finding that the French Line wasn't as bad as we had expected, and ended up on the French Line, Rig Road, WAA line, Knoll's Track, French Line, and then QAA line. 610 Km in all. We filled from cans once and when we arrived in Birdsville found that we had used 135 L, so a lot less than we thought we might need.

2) Where to carry fuel cans? We carried the reserve cans on the roof rack, if they’re positioned well you can then drain directly to the main tank, which avoids having to lift them down. We had no problems in the Simpson, HOWEVER, in East Africa we had one can spring a leak through fatigue. This was travelling with our LC80 and was diesel, which is messy when it leaks. The cans were well-secured and protected with carpet, so this didn't help. Most of the “roads” were not bad although the main tracks in the Serengeti are atrocious (the leak occurred earlier in the trip, and we had seen relatively few bad corrugations to this point). I agree that you should drain the reserve cans as early as you can. On the Australia trip we had reservice cans which were empty until the first point we needed extra fuel (GRR) and once we had completed all of the bits of the trip on which extra fuel was needed we gave them away to the fire service in NSW.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 23:10

Tuesday, Mar 08, 2022 at 23:10
David, you have a crossing covered with 120 litres, Do not overload the triton canopy, especially if you have air helpers, the walls of Mt Dare are full of repair photos. I passed one fellow with 4 ratchet straps from his bullbar to towbar, holding the chassis together.
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Follow Up By: tim_c - Friday, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:45

Friday, Mar 11, 2022 at 11:45
...and load the heaviest stuff at the front of the tray (keep the weight as far forward as possible).
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Reply By: Member - nickb boab - Wednesday, Mar 09, 2022 at 10:57

Wednesday, Mar 09, 2022 at 10:57
David : we did it ranger straight across french line carried 180L used around 110 /120 l travelling pretty light . I think keeping weight as low as possible.. i think the comment in a tube in the back is a good idea , hold them tight & catch any spilling of fuel .
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Reply By: Member - Soft-Roader - Thursday, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:29

Thursday, Mar 10, 2022 at 10:29
One of, in fact the primary, reason I have a ute is for the loading of fuel containers in the back (under a canopy). Fridge is sealed, don't worry about that. I actually bought a square cork board tile from Bunnings to put under mine - just as a little bit of shock protection. Was surprisingly useful - got one under the water tank, the fridge and have a couple spare just in case you want to soften anything going over rough terrain.
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