Lithium batteries

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Needing some help choosing a lithium for the Engel in the Ute canopy, endless range , wanting feedback on what’s a good thing
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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:11

Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 08:11
I,ve got 3 x 120 a/h ITechs and 1 x 100a/h Renogy. All perform well and are 500% better than the AGM,s they replaced. Both have a very good reputation and various You-tube clips show more praise. Not the cheapest but if you want A grade cells, good BMS and quality you normally have to pay for it. Make sure you also get a good battery monitor that can tell you the voltage, amps used/gathered etc.etc.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:56

Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 10:56
Dont buy anything that doesnt list internal resistance. Low resistance means low temperature, faster charging etc, repurposed lithium has a higher resistance. Many batteries dont bother to advertise too many specs
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Reply By: Rob A1 (SA) - Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 14:17

Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 14:17
Take a look at the new REDARC GoBlock setup. With the Dock it is secure and wired in just like a second battery system but in this instance the Block can be easily removed and used by itself for many things, such as running a CPAP machine in a tent. But you do need an inverter for that if you don't have one for your CPAP machine already. Plenty of other examples other than that one

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Follow Up By: DaveO*ST-R - Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 07:30

Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 07:30
$3000 for the 100ah Redarc - for running a fridge - wow, Redarc might be good gear, but expensive!!! (FWIW - when camping etc, my CPAP machine runs off a 12V adapter, so with an extension lead to the lithium in the back of the car, all is good)
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Reply By: Member - OzJourney - Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 18:04

Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 18:04
Make sure you check what the maximum discharge current is, some of the cheap ones are only 50 amps, the higher the better.
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Follow Up By: DaveO*ST-R - Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 07:23

Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 07:23
True that usually bigger is better - and more expensive - but it depends what else he wants to run. In the back of my car I have a 100ah lithium with a continuous discharge rate of 50amps solely to run an Engel fridge and a few lights. It has been working perfectly for 12 months and was "cheap" at $450. Conversely, I have the iTechworld 120amp in my caravan. It has a continuous discharge rate of 150amps and cost almost twice as much. Great battery and doing everything I want from it, but for me, perhaps overkill for the back of the car. Horses for courses.
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Follow Up By: Member - OzJourney - Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 08:46

Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 08:46
A mate had a 50amp battery and plugged in his air compressor and killed it, just nice to have the flexibility when going bush.

Personally I don't like the way that Lithium batteries are not able to be used to jump start a vehicle, weld or run a winch in an emergency and opted to make my own using individual cells.


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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Sunday, Apr 10, 2022 at 07:40

Sunday, Apr 10, 2022 at 07:40
Oz-journey,

The majority of Deep Cycle batteries including AGM’s do not like to be used to start vehicles, or for welding etc. where sudden high amperage is required.

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Follow Up By: Phil G - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2022 at 20:42

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2022 at 20:42
Yes, I've had to rethink my emergency welding setup since changing to Lithium.
Current solution is to bring away some mates, so we always have 2 or 3 starting batteries.

But maybe longer term, might think about a small lightweight welder running off a big 240V inverter.
But thats in the future
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Reply By: Bob Y. - Qld - Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 21:57

Friday, Apr 08, 2022 at 21:57
Have a look at the range available from Lithium Battery Wholesalers, on Facebook. Good range, good charge & discharge rates, competitive pricing & usually freight free.

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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 07:02

Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 07:02
Hi Ray,

From a lot of the on line reviews, Renogy seem to get all positive reviews. They are well priced at around $800 for a 100 amp battery.

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Reply By: Gerard S - Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 15:39

Saturday, Apr 09, 2022 at 15:39
itech lithium batteries are NOT waterproof. Colleague fitted them into his Lotus Caravan Chassis mounts They failed 18 months later. Returned them for investigation, was told they had internal water damage...no warranty claim. He claimed manufacturing fault...but not accepted by itech. Beware.
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Follow Up By: Member - Bigfish - Monday, Apr 11, 2022 at 10:40

Monday, Apr 11, 2022 at 10:40
I,ve 3 of them and the only way water can get in is if they are damaged. They are a sealed unit...hence theIP67 rating. IP67 RATING IS ....6 = Full protection against dust and other particulates, including a vacuum seal, tested against continuous airflow. 7 = Protection against full immersion for up to 30 minutes at depths between 15 cm and 1 metre (limited ingress permitted with no harmful effects).

I,d be interested in the discussion and facts that were included in the warranty claim. As I said the only way I can see water/dust entering is only via a damaged casing.
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Reply By: Member - peter g28 - Sunday, Apr 10, 2022 at 23:08

Sunday, Apr 10, 2022 at 23:08
I agree with many of the responses..but the bottom line comes down to:
1/. How deep are your pockets?
2/. What are you immediate and future plans for your set up?
3/. Do you really have to go for lithium..for lithium's sake..keep up with the Jones etc..so to speak.
Question 1..
Your price range can be from $600 to over $3000..each of the lithium batteries mentioned in this thread cover this huge price bracket...Renogy from about $700... Redarc..$2800 and then you have the many many brands in between..
Question 2..if you have a set up..a 12v compressor fridge, say 50Ltr +, few lights, couple of charging points and you camp couple of times a year..then a $500 - 120Ah cheapie lithium battery might be the go..I know of a couple of mates who have the $600 Voltex / Atlas / Encore 120Ah lithium .... they charge them with a basic vehicle solenoid ignition system but they know the risks of this way of charging, if they get 5 years out of the battery, well it's no skin off their nose, so to speak..BUT..if you want to run all the mod cons' and go off the grid for days at a time, have remote monitoring of lights, compressors, fridges..etc...I mean go the whole hog....then $5k is not out of the realm of reality.
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Reply By: Phil G - Wednesday, Apr 13, 2022 at 20:55

Wednesday, Apr 13, 2022 at 20:55
Single fridge is fine with a 100Ah Lithium. Add a solar panel and you'll never run out of power.

I currently own 4 of the Sunyee LiFePO4 purchased off EBay. Two have been running for 15 months in the Troopy and two for about 12 months in the caravan. They perform faultlessly. In the Troopy I often run two fridges - one as a freezer. I also run a 1500W inverter which pulls 120A when running a coffee machine or hair dryer and is also used for other stuff. From memory the standard discharge current for each battery was over 100A. Actually ran a fan heater where it pulled 170A - just for a test for about 30 secs.
With Lithium, you pay for the battery and you also pay for the brand. I'm happy to skip the name brand. The Sunyees cost me $400 each. There are stacks of so called "cheap" Lithium batteries out there - I've fitted a couple of the VoltaX brand ones in mates vehicles and caravans and they have been very good also.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100Ah-12V-Lithium-Battery-LiFePO4-Deep-Cycle-Rechargeable-Marine-4WD-AGM-Replace-/393958130954
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