Weights
Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 15:58
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qldcamper
Been having a bit of a search but not doing very
well.
Trying to find the various weight specs for my vehicle (late 2012 SR5) that the scalies would refer to if I draw the short straw.
There must be a site that lists all australian sold vehicles but buggered if I can find it.
Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 16:54
Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 16:54
What weights are you after ?
Anything here help ?
SPECIFICATIONS - 2012 hilux double cab SR 4x4
Engine: In-line turbo-charged four-cylinder diesel
Max power: 126kW@3600rpm
Max torque: 343Nm@1400-3400rpm
Transmission: Five-speed manual
Length: 5135mm
Width: 1760mm
Height: 1850mm
Wheelbase: 3085mm
Ground clearance: 212mm
Kerb mass: 1810kg
Gross Vehicle Mass: 2780kg
Gross Combined Mass: 5030kg
Fuel tank capacity: 76L
Roof load: 100kg
Towing capacity unbraked/braked: 750kg/2500kg
TBM maximum: 250kg
For more
information about the Toyota HiLux, visit www.toyota.com.au
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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 17:53
Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 17:53
Hi QC,
To satisfy the scalies you need to know and be under:
GVM
If you've had a GVM upgrade it has to be certified by an engineer approved by your state's rego authority. If it's not certified the manufacturers GVM will apply.
GCM
If you've had a certified GCM upgrade prior to 1 July 2019 (I think it was 2019, could be earlier, need to do some research) then the upgrade is recognised. After that critical date that I cannot remember, the GCM loophole was closed and the only GCM figure that applies is the one issued by the vehicle manufacturer.
TBM
Max Towball mass specified by the vehicle manufacturer or the towbar manufacturer, whichever is less.
Towing Capacity
Actual trailer mass has to be under the vehicle's rated towing capacity.
Max Front Axle Load
Max Rear Axle Load
You must be under both unless an approved engineer has allowed an increase as part of a certified GVM upgrade. I don't know how often the scalies
check against those, but they can.
Tare
Doesn't really matter when you're on the road. It's the limits mentioned above that count for the scalies.
You didn't ask about trailer weights, but the scalies will be after those too, if you are towing.:
Trailer's ATM
You can have a trailer with an ATM heavier than the vehicle's max towing capacity as long as you don't load it fully so that it stays under the vehicle's max towable limit AND under the vehicle's GCM.
Trailer's GTM
Weight on the axles, not to be exceeded.
If you've had a certified upgrade of either vehicle or trailer I recommend you carry a copy of your rego certificate(s) with the new weights (if stated) and a copy of the engineer's certificate(s).
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 20:54
Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 20:54
With regards to axle loadings, there doesn't seem to be anything about these in the regs for light vehicles, for example in SA
"Schedule 1—Light vehicle mass and loading requirements Part 1—Light vehicle mass limits 1—Mass limit for single vehicle (1) The mass of any load on a vehicle must not exceed a maximum specified by the vehicle's manufacturer. (2) The total mass of a vehicle and any load must not exceed the vehicle's GVM. " Googling 'light vehicle' and 'axle mass' or 'axle weight' will not yield any hits other than HV regs. Unless 'any load on a vehicle' can be interpreted to mean individual weights. Axle loads aren't part of any compliance plating.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 21:40
Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 21:40
In NSW modified axle loadings are part of a certified GVM upgrade.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 08:39
Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 08:39
That makes sense, but not on the original manufacturer's plate. Pretty sure I saw some authoritative posts on another
forum from a member involved in transport reg's and inspections, which of course I can't find, about axle loadings being perhaps a warranty issue but not a issue for transport authorities.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 09:06
Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 09:06
Hi Frank,
Just to clarify your statement around GCM. A GCM when carried out by a registered Second Stage Manufacturer and certified by an registered engineer under a SSM Certification is recognised both post and pre first registration in most states, including NSW & Vic.. in Qld. it is no longer recognised if done post first registration, but still recognised if done pre first registration. In either case, you must have a SSM label with the appropriate new weight limits affixed to the B Pillar on the drivers side.
If you have a GCM that was completed in another state, you are still legal to drive in Qld. (Or any other state that does not recognise GCM Upgrades) you will however not be able to re-register that vehicle with the upgraded GCM in Qld.
Macca.
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Reply By: qldcamper - Sunday, Jun 12, 2022 at 10:33
Sunday, Jun 12, 2022 at 10:33
Thanks to the
well wishers that suggested I look in the owners manual so now that I am
home I looked and as I was pretty sure it is not in there, just where the GVM is located on the compliance plate.
The towing guide gives a detailed explination on how to apply the formulas but just an example, not specific to the vehicle it was supplied with.
The websites I have looked at dont seem to cover my particular model, just group 2005 to 2015 and I am pretty sure they are not all the same as there were lots of changes.
Thanks for having a go but assuming the obvious isnt always safe.
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