Weights

Submitted: Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 15:58
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Been having a bit of a search but not doing very well.
Trying to find the various weight specs for my vehicle (late 2012 SR5) that the scalies would refer to if I draw the short straw.
There must be a site that lists all australian sold vehicles but buggered if I can find it.
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 16:54

Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 16:54
What weights are you after ?

Anything here help ?

SPECIFICATIONS - 2012 hilux double cab SR 4x4

Engine: In-line turbo-charged four-cylinder diesel
Max power: 126kW@3600rpm
Max torque: 343Nm@1400-3400rpm
Transmission: Five-speed manual
Length: 5135mm
Width: 1760mm
Height: 1850mm
Wheelbase: 3085mm
Ground clearance: 212mm
Kerb mass: 1810kg
Gross Vehicle Mass: 2780kg
Gross Combined Mass: 5030kg
Fuel tank capacity: 76L
Roof load: 100kg
Towing capacity unbraked/braked: 750kg/2500kg
TBM maximum: 250kg
For more information about the Toyota HiLux, visit www.toyota.com.au
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Reply By: qldcamper - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 17:20

Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 17:20
Exactly the sort of stuff I am after but for an late post facelift SR5 auto(4speed), had some changes to the brakes and bits and pieces.
What site did you get that from Gazz?
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Follow Up By: Member - Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 17:29

Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 17:29
Just typed in 2012 hilux specs and towing weights into google and a few links down was a caravan site/forum

Probably a few more to find but I'm on my 5th sarsaparilla now and 6,7 and 8 aren't far behind

Good luck

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Reply By: Member - DW Lennox Head(NSW) - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 17:41

Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 17:41
What Gaz has put down is the start for you.
You need to work out or weigh what extras have been added,
Another item the weight inspectors will look at are maximum individual axle weights. Probably around 1280 front and 1600 rear.
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Follow Up By: qldcamper - Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 22:10

Wednesday, Jun 08, 2022 at 22:10
Thanks, once I know the weights a simple trip to the weighbridge with a full tank and everything that isnt bolted down removed.
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Reply By: OzzieCruiser - Thursday, Jun 09, 2022 at 00:04

Thursday, Jun 09, 2022 at 00:04
If in doubt look in the vehicle handbook and if you dont have one download one.
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Reply By: Athol W1 - Thursday, Jun 09, 2022 at 08:31

Thursday, Jun 09, 2022 at 08:31
All that information is available at either redbook.com.au or carsales.com.au, just have to look.

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Athol
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Thursday, Jun 09, 2022 at 09:29

Thursday, Jun 09, 2022 at 09:29
Hi qldcamper,

All that info should be in your operators manual. If you do not have one, then “Google” your specific vehicle specs, and it should list them. Of course, these tare numbers will be with the vehicle as stock standard, and unless it states “curb weight” will only include approx. 10 Ltrs of fuel. Any extras that may have been added, including passengers and fuel need to be taken into consideration.

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Follow Up By: Gbc.. - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:58

Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:58
I'm not sure how they were weighed back then (especially being toyota who were always fuzzy at that time), but being commercial vehicles I have read they are tared with a full tank of juice whereas wagons are 'nominal'.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:54

Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 12:54
Hi gbc,

“Tare” weight is legistated and must conform to a standard. The standard for a motor vehicle states all fluids plus 10 Litres of fuel. I believe that Curb weight is with all accessories, all fluids plus a full tank of fuel.

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Reply By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 17:53

Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 17:53
Hi QC,

To satisfy the scalies you need to know and be under:

GVM
If you've had a GVM upgrade it has to be certified by an engineer approved by your state's rego authority. If it's not certified the manufacturers GVM will apply.

GCM
If you've had a certified GCM upgrade prior to 1 July 2019 (I think it was 2019, could be earlier, need to do some research) then the upgrade is recognised. After that critical date that I cannot remember, the GCM loophole was closed and the only GCM figure that applies is the one issued by the vehicle manufacturer.

TBM
Max Towball mass specified by the vehicle manufacturer or the towbar manufacturer, whichever is less.

Towing Capacity
Actual trailer mass has to be under the vehicle's rated towing capacity.

Max Front Axle Load
Max Rear Axle Load
You must be under both unless an approved engineer has allowed an increase as part of a certified GVM upgrade. I don't know how often the scalies check against those, but they can.

Tare
Doesn't really matter when you're on the road. It's the limits mentioned above that count for the scalies.

You didn't ask about trailer weights, but the scalies will be after those too, if you are towing.:

Trailer's ATM
You can have a trailer with an ATM heavier than the vehicle's max towing capacity as long as you don't load it fully so that it stays under the vehicle's max towable limit AND under the vehicle's GCM.

Trailer's GTM
Weight on the axles, not to be exceeded.

If you've had a certified upgrade of either vehicle or trailer I recommend you carry a copy of your rego certificate(s) with the new weights (if stated) and a copy of the engineer's certificate(s).

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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 20:54

Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 20:54
With regards to axle loadings, there doesn't seem to be anything about these in the regs for light vehicles, for example in SA
"Schedule 1—Light vehicle mass and loading requirements Part 1—Light vehicle mass limits 1—Mass limit for single vehicle (1) The mass of any load on a vehicle must not exceed a maximum specified by the vehicle's manufacturer. (2) The total mass of a vehicle and any load must not exceed the vehicle's GVM. " Googling 'light vehicle' and 'axle mass' or 'axle weight' will not yield any hits other than HV regs. Unless 'any load on a vehicle' can be interpreted to mean individual weights. Axle loads aren't part of any compliance plating.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 21:40

Friday, Jun 10, 2022 at 21:40
In NSW modified axle loadings are part of a certified GVM upgrade.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 08:39

Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 08:39
That makes sense, but not on the original manufacturer's plate. Pretty sure I saw some authoritative posts on another forum from a member involved in transport reg's and inspections, which of course I can't find, about axle loadings being perhaps a warranty issue but not a issue for transport authorities.
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 09:06

Saturday, Jun 11, 2022 at 09:06
Hi Frank,

Just to clarify your statement around GCM. A GCM when carried out by a registered Second Stage Manufacturer and certified by an registered engineer under a SSM Certification is recognised both post and pre first registration in most states, including NSW & Vic.. in Qld. it is no longer recognised if done post first registration, but still recognised if done pre first registration. In either case, you must have a SSM label with the appropriate new weight limits affixed to the B Pillar on the drivers side.

If you have a GCM that was completed in another state, you are still legal to drive in Qld. (Or any other state that does not recognise GCM Upgrades) you will however not be able to re-register that vehicle with the upgraded GCM in Qld.

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Reply By: qldcamper - Sunday, Jun 12, 2022 at 10:33

Sunday, Jun 12, 2022 at 10:33
Thanks to the well wishers that suggested I look in the owners manual so now that I am home I looked and as I was pretty sure it is not in there, just where the GVM is located on the compliance plate.

The towing guide gives a detailed explination on how to apply the formulas but just an example, not specific to the vehicle it was supplied with.

The websites I have looked at dont seem to cover my particular model, just group 2005 to 2015 and I am pretty sure they are not all the same as there were lots of changes.

Thanks for having a go but assuming the obvious isnt always safe.
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