The Irwins application to close down Bertiehaugh Rd has been REJECTED

Submitted: Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 10:36
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Reply By: Member - Jim S1 - Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 12:14

Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 12:14
Seems like it was quite a controversy up there. Hope all users now behave themselves and look after the road and the area.
Wonder who has official responsibility for the road ........ local shire I presume.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dick L - Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 13:06

Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 13:06
Cook Shire insisted it be kept open.
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Reply By: OzzieCruiser - Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 13:02

Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 13:02
So what is the background to this - most on the forum would not have heard this - just posting something like this without the context is meaningless.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dick L - Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 13:13

Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 13:13
I was trying to keep this as information only.

Do a google search on Bertiehaugh Road.

Bertiehaugh Road
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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 15:35

Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 15:35
I shouldnt have too - the poster should provide relevant information.
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Follow Up By: Dusta - Sunday, Apr 09, 2023 at 01:51

Sunday, Apr 09, 2023 at 01:51
totally pointless thread with no context to the average member and then saying google it . Lol
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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:06

Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:06
Here is a bit of background on it

https://arr.news/2021/07/06/loop-road-to-provide-new-four-wheel-drive-track/
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 14:09

Friday, Apr 07, 2023 at 14:09
Thanks Dick, i had heard of their wanting to close off access through "their property access rd"
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Reply By: Member - Cuppa - Saturday, Apr 08, 2023 at 09:20

Saturday, Apr 08, 2023 at 09:20
I received the same email letter yesterday.

I think it a triumph for profit driven 'mob rule' and am disappointed at the outcome.

I am biased of course, having established friendships with rangers on the Irwin Reserve & with the pastoralists who until very recently were at Bertiehaugh Station where they had been for many years. In fact they bulldozed the original track.

Had I not had this connection & could only see the track from a 4wd visitors perspective I'd probably feel quite positive about the outcome.

The process followed by local Weipa buggy owners & their commercial supporters has in my view been very poor. Treating the track as though it were open & safe & encouraging, via social media, unwitting tourists & sycophantic rebels to use it in order to force it open has been quite inappropriate over the past couple of years.

But the decision is now made. The ecological consequences will be ignored in favour of profit & fun. Give it a year or two & it will be trashed like the OTT.

I comment thus, to have my say here, but I won't be re-hashing old argument already had elsewhere on this forum should anyone 'invite' me to do so.

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Follow Up By: Member - silkwood - Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:39

Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:39
Hi Cuppa, I understand the environmental aspects (particularly the fear this could end up as another OTT "highway"), but have heard the argument the road was close to public access, but the Irwins allowed certain tour companies access to parts of the track. Is this correct?

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Follow Up By: Member - Cuppa - Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:34

Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 11:34
Hi Mark.

I'm not 100% certain, but I believe the very limited number of tour buses took a different route through the Irwin reserve, (ie turned right, not left immediately after Stones Crossing), same route used by the rangers, which is why the now called Bertiehaugh Rd was overgrown & disused when the first lot of buggies took 8 or 10 hours to push through it.

Besides there's a big difference between a handful of tour buses over which the refuge had control (ie. do the wrong thing & permission no longer granted) & the unregulated 'free for all' which now exists.

I still have concerns about safety. The route across the Wenlock although short is potentially treacherous. It requires a curved trajectory which is too tight for camper trailers to miss the metre deep holes, & the chap who 'dozed the track, including the cutting on the southern bank, through relatively soft rock, told me there are water filled 'caverns' underneath the bedrock of the river there, with the possibility that with increased traffic that sooner or later they could collapse. It's also in the middle of a very large croc's territory..
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Reply By: cookie1 - Sunday, Apr 09, 2023 at 12:00

Sunday, Apr 09, 2023 at 12:00
Good news - I guess, the only issue I see is where, like a number of other places, you start getting the yobbos tearing through there to the detriment of the local wildlife.

Interesting old Bob has hit the media about people tackling crocs such as Social Media Influencers, don't get me wrong I think at some stage they will come a cropper, but then isn't that how Steve (RIP) made his mark and finally his demise?

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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:57

Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 10:57
It seems to me Steve Irwin made his mark by being a rather flamboyant conservationist, his trademark being "wrestling" crocodiles into submission. But there was more to Irwin than wrestling crocodiles. I think to characterise him as a social media "influencer" does him and his cause somewhat of an injustice. He was bigger than that, despite what many see to be his rather OTT presentation.

Ironically it wasn't one of his trademark crocs that did him in, it was a stingray. Link.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:02

Monday, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:02
Frank I tend to agree with Cookie 1, Steve Irwin did basically what the influencers do , it is just the media format that has changed.
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Follow Up By: cookie1 - Tuesday, Apr 11, 2023 at 13:59

Tuesday, Apr 11, 2023 at 13:59
Hi Frank P,
yes Steve was flamboyant but I think his dad was the real conservationist and still is today hence why I think he tried to close this road, in fact Bob walked away from Australian Zoo years ago due to it becoming a money making tool rather than the true intent when he first set it up.

I have no hesitation in believing that if Facebook, Tik Toc, Instagram and other forms of Social Media were available he would have utilised them too, the whole premise of him being a crocodile hunter and shine in the media spotlight is what brought about his exceptional profile.

I think one would have to have never seen TV or listened to the news to know how Steve died and as the report says he swam up from the rear so the Stingray probably tried to swim away rather than attack but Steve was too close.

"Stingray attacks
Stingrays are not known to be aggressive, nor are they known to act defensively. In fact, the primary defensive action of the stingray is simply to swim away from the area. However, when attacked by a predator or stepped on, the ray will use its tail to puncture and envenomate its potential attacker."
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