Looking to fit 120amp alternator to 2009 PK Ford Ranger

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Has anyone fitted a larger output alternator to a PK Ford Ranger. My 80amp struggles with 2 deep cycle batteries and 2 fridges, headlights on.
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Reply By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 08:52

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 08:52
So where is the power going? From my perspective, you should not have a problem.
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Follow Up By: 2Fru1tbats - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:38

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 10:38
Thnx for you attention Peter. All I know is my new 120AmpHour cranking battery does maintain fully charged status when running vehicle with the other loads. Only recently fitted extra fridge and deep cycle battery. Thought that the 80amp job was not cutting the mustard and fitting a 120amp might fix it. Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 11:38

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 11:38
Add it up.
Guesses.......
Head lights 8A each = 16A.
Fridges 5A each = 10A.
Other odds and ends = 20A??
Battery charging - whatever is left.
My conclusion is there is something not quite right somewhere?
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Reply By: Genny - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 17:11

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 17:11
A victim of the smart alternator?
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Reply By: OzzieCruiser - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 18:51

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 18:51
What are the symptoms that make you think your current arrangement is not up to scratch?
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Reply By: Member - LeighW - Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 23:07

Tuesday, Apr 18, 2023 at 23:07
All you need to do is get your for dealer to turn on the dual battery mode, alternator voltage will then return to normal levels.

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Follow Up By: AlbyNSW - Saturday, Apr 22, 2023 at 09:05

Saturday, Apr 22, 2023 at 09:05
Follow this course of action before you do anything, I recall reading it in the owners manual but don’t remember which specific year model as it may have changed
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 08:34

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 08:34
The newer cars with a smart alt dont charge at a high enough voltage to service deep cycle batteries. The way around it is to fit a dc to dc charger between the car battery and the deep cycle ones. Totally keeps the fridge system seperate to the main car system. I ran similar in my 200 and ran a fridge 24/7 in there no issues, still do, so look at a 30 or 40 amp charger that you can hook a solar panel to, and your set.
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Friday, Apr 21, 2023 at 19:52

Friday, Apr 21, 2023 at 19:52
200 series doesn’t have a smart alternator !!
Mine runs the 2 start batts plus charges 2 x 110 a/h AGM’s in the van no probs….with no dc/dc charger for the van batts !!
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Reply By: Member - Outback Gazz - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:48

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 10:48
I may be wrong but I don't think the 2009 PK Ranger has a smart alternator - I believe they came out in the newer PX ranger in 2011 !
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Reply By: IvanTheTerrible - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 20:21

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 20:21
You do know that a PK Ranger is not made for a larger output alternator.
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Reply By: Member - Darwin Dave - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:31

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:31
Dont play with the alternator fit a dc/dc charger.

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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 09:22

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 09:22
Power still has to come from the alternator, but it will be choked to deliver less than it could. Great for a caravan where the length of the cable causes voltage drop, but not much value if the cable run is shorter.
We can get up to 70A into our house batteries direct from an 85A alternator.
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Reply By: Member - Darwin Dave - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:32

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:32
Dont play with the alternator fit a dc/dc charger.

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Reply By: 2Fru1tbats - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 15:26

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 15:26
Thnx to all who responded - will go down the DC DC charger road
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Follow Up By: Gronk - Friday, Apr 21, 2023 at 19:55

Friday, Apr 21, 2023 at 19:55
Don’t forget a dc/dc charger isn’t a magic box. It can’t supply more amps than what goes into it.
I don’t know why you think the alternator couldn’t supply enough amps in the 1st place, but a dc/dc charger won’t fix that problem.
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Follow Up By: OzzieCruiser - Friday, Apr 21, 2023 at 20:39

Friday, Apr 21, 2023 at 20:39
Yes if the alternator is not big enough to meet the load, a dc/dc charger is not going to fix that. Laws of physics apply.
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Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Saturday, Apr 22, 2023 at 08:26

Saturday, Apr 22, 2023 at 08:26
Doing a quick “Google” search, PK Ranger alternators put out between 130 and 180 amps depending on the model. Perhaps do a search of the parts list for your model ranger to get the definitive answer.

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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Sunday, Apr 23, 2023 at 19:55

Sunday, Apr 23, 2023 at 19:55
I checked my suppliers and the PK Ranger is only 75A or 80A. There are some ridiculous options available online but need wiring and fusebox modifications and we have found issues with belt tensions on other hi-output alternators.
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Follow Up By: IvanTheTerrible - Sunday, Apr 23, 2023 at 19:56

Sunday, Apr 23, 2023 at 19:56
I checked my suppliers and the PK Ranger is only 75A or 80A. There are some ridiculous options available online but need wiring and fusebox modifications and we have found issues with belt tensions on other hi-output alternators.
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Reply By: Member - John H90 - Sunday, Apr 23, 2023 at 22:41

Sunday, Apr 23, 2023 at 22:41
I’d would b testing the alternator and make sure it can put out the said amps.
Then test both batteries and see their capabilities and test the amp draw on both fridges.
If your not using a 12/12volt charger and charging the 2 fridge batteries through a VSR depending on your wiring size and length they can draw 45 to 50 amps each if there in a low state of charge.
Eg, my Engel draws about 4amps over about 14hrs at a 50% duty cycle it will take about 30amp-hours out of a fully charged battery.

When you restart your vehicle in the morning you will be using more amps than the alternator can put out so your start battery will discharge to make up the difference.
As the fridge batteries charge they will draw less and less amps and there will be a time when the alternator will be able to recharge all 3 batteries.
Unfortunately you will have dull lights etc through the first phase of this charging cycle.

Under this circumstance you would best fit a 12/12volt charger, a 30amp charger draws between 35 to 45amps from the start battery/alternator depending on wiring etc.
this would then leave enough reserve amps to run lights etc at charge voltage.

The difference between the 2 charging systems is time it takes to charge the fridge batteries, the 12/12volt charger will start putting 15 amps into each fridge battery where the direct connection through a VCR will start 45 to 50amps.
So if you can’t get a 120amp or higher alternator the 12/12 volt charger is the way to go with an 80amp alternator.

Keep in mind that alternators are designed to charge wet cell batteries and they don’t charge AGM batteries properly, a multi stage charger is best, also most 12/12volt chargers have a solar inputs, adding a panel on the roof will also help charge those fridge batteries.
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Follow Up By: Peter_n_Margaret - Monday, Apr 24, 2023 at 17:46

Monday, Apr 24, 2023 at 17:46
"Keep in mind that alternators are designed to charge wet cell batteries and they don’t charge AGM batteries properly, "
I use a "garden variety" AGM as a crank battery in the OKA after discovering that corrugations destroy wet cell batteries within 2-3 years.
I replaced the first after 9 years of use. The second is 5 years old and counting..
The standard Bosch alternator is 85A at 14.4V which is quite ideal for an AGM.
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Peter
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