Diff Bind reversing van?

Submitted: Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:03
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I have a query on ‘diff Bind’ and seek guidance with the Ford Ranger auto 4WD please.

My 2.8T 21 ft dual axle van has to be reversed up a short brick paved incline – about 30 metres and shifted across about 3 – 4 metres to park alongside a garden shed after entry through an ‘only just wide enough’ driveway between neighbours bushes one side and fence on t’other – so it has to be slow and carefully negotiated.

Years ago this would have been a simple chore in low range in a manual with front diffs out, but with the RANGER being Auto I am not game to try the low range option.

If I don’t get it right it causes some angst with the boss and there is little room for back and fill adjustments.

Is there an easy solution to circumvent the diff bind or is there little chance of it over the short distance?

I accept shifting the shed would be the sensible move but with the bit of garden in the way that is not permitted :O((

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Reply By: Member - wicket - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 13:19

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 13:19
Maybe try one of these ? https://www.aussiewheel.com.au/
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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 15:11

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 15:11
Low range and take it slow. You will get some binding, but thats better than cooking the auto in high range which will happen.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 16:11

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 16:11
Could try that I guess, but bail out at the first 'grind' I hear.

Hate destroying gear - usually gets expensive when you hear noises. ;o)
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Reply By: Member - bbuzz (NSW) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 15:52

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 15:52
I have put a front towbar socket on my Prado.
I 'drive' my 18' single axle into a carport at the back of my block.
Two narrow parts and a curvy bend.
Did it with a 5m half cabin boat first.

Should have taken pics (will do next time).

Can send a pic of the attachment on the bullbar if you want.

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 16:14

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 16:14
Thanks Bill - the brother in law does that, probably the most sensible if the reversing in low range is a 'no-go'.

Cheers - Phil
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Reply By: brianc - Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 23:56

Wednesday, Apr 19, 2023 at 23:56
Not sure if I'm missing something here? Diff bind is AKA transmission windup? A part time 4wd without the front axles engaged gets around this low range issue (I've done that trick to move stuff a lot). I don't know these vehicles, but if there is a centre diff, won't that solve this - auto or manual?
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Follow Up By: Michael H9 - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 05:55

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 05:55
Most utes don't have a centre diff, just the transfer case.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:46

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:46
Auto as stated brianc, thanks and yes I am no mechanic but guess it would be tranny windup... Cheers
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Reply By: Member - shane r1 - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:07

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:07
I’ve got a 2012 bt50, I’m pretty sure when you engage low range the rear diff auto locks , so slow speed turning you’d hear the tyres squirming a bit but shouldn’t hurt anything. Does make it harder to manoeuvre tightly.
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Follow Up By: Frank P (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:57

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 11:57
I have a 2014 BT50, mechanically a Ranger PX1. 6 speed auto, part time 4WD. The rear diff does not auto lock in low range.

If you slowly drive in a circle in 4H or 4L on a wet grassed surface, all 4 wheel tracks show evidence of traction stress. The whole transmission winds up, but the reduced traction on the grass allows the strain to be relieved.

On a sealed surface it is not so forgiving as enormous strain is put on transmission components before the tyres slip a bit. I have encountered similar to the OP's circumstances and share the his concern - with no ready solution :-(.

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Reply By: Member - Darwin Dave - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:16

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 08:16
I had the same problem with my Dmax shopping trolley so I fitted a set of free wheeling hubs so now can use low range 2 wheel drive makes life easier.

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Reply By: Member - Phil 'n Jill (WA) - Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 13:04

Thursday, Apr 20, 2023 at 13:04
Thanks to Frank on the 'follow-up' exercise with the BT-50 - your response is what I was dreading.

I don't mind scrubbing the tyres for a short run and probably chip a few paving bricks along the way - but I am concerned about damage from stress can cause and if it is a 'no-go', then it is 'no-go'. Will either have to improve my skills in the confined area or consider another option

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Reply By: Member - DOZER - Tuesday, Apr 25, 2023 at 11:33

Tuesday, Apr 25, 2023 at 11:33
This is all a storm in a teacup. I had a bt50 4x4 and it would loose traction if i put 1 front wheel up on a kerb in 2wd.
Unless your drive is dead flat you will be leaving black marks.
Option 2 would be a landcruiser that has a constant low range
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Follow Up By: Member - McLaren3030 - Thursday, Apr 27, 2023 at 17:18

Thursday, Apr 27, 2023 at 17:18
Dozer,

They don’t have a “constant low range” it needs to be selected, but they do have constant 4WD.

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