Patrol or Disco
Submitted: Sunday, Jul 11, 2004 at 22:33
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Justin
I was all set on looking into buying a 3.0l TD SER III Patrol until I saw the promo in the courier for Discos. They are offering $5k of extras for $500 in a country or town option. In addition to that they are also advertising - pay half now and the other half in 2006 with 0% interest. The Patrol is about $52 + dealer and the Disco is $52 + dealer (Td5 manual) and $500 for the $5k deal. I have an 80 series now and have had a bad run with toyota and as I only keep my vehicles for a few yrs so I thought I'd have a change, especially at the $72k price tag for a TD Cruiser. I don't think I need the large 6cyl motor as most of my driving is unloaded, however it is nice to be able to pass comfortably when you are towing or loaded up. I currently have a 1HZ and I have had enough of travelling so slow. It gets dangerous when you try to pass with minimal acceleration. I have been there and done that with respect to hard core offroad so I am looking for something comfortable and reliable. It looks like Nissan offer 3yrs 100k warranty and Land Rover 2yrs 50k warranty - can anyone comfirm this. Land Rovers website is a little ordinary as I couldn't find any specs on the motors.
Cheers
Reply By: joshinthecity - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:29
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 01:29
I paid $47600 not long ago for a 3.0 5-speed ST series 4 GU.
On road drive away. do some homework, break the dealer's balls.
Buy the Patrol.
Oh, that included the lights, bullbar, and towbar, and no, it wasn't a demo. Delivered to me with 8.5 klm on the odo.
Josh.
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Reply By: Member - Captain (WA) - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:27
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 10:27
Hi Justin,
I too used to own an 80 series diesel and had fitted extractors plus 2 1/2" system to try and improve its power. Recently I bought a Nissan 3.0TD GU and I haven't regretted it for one moment, particurlaly when I am towing. One forgets what its like to have a vehicle that actually responds to the accelerator. Recently, I "lined up" with my brother-in-laws 80 series petrol 4.5 for a roll-on "drag" from 80 km/hr in 5th gear. I was as suprised as anyone to actually win (was over a car length in front at 130 km/hr before common sense took over). But I must admit I do have a Dtronic fitted (takes torque from 354Nm to 420Nm).
As for price, you should be able to get a good $5K off the Nissan list, much more if you can get fleet discount. I looked at the discovery when replacing my cruiser, but it didn't suit my requirements.
Cheers
Captain
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Reply By: oddy - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:35
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:35
Have the latest disco and it is a little under-powered from standing start but kicks
well from there. You would want Dtronic. Discovery's engine figures aren't impressive (see back of latest 4wdmthly or 4x4, i think) but fuel economy (diesel) is great and it does the job
well. The 5000 worth of extras I would look at closely, is it what you want as part of your setup. Great car to drive, fairly nimble. ABS is very suss, skips all over the placed under brakes if bumpy ground.
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Reply By: Baldrick - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:38
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 11:38
Land Rover warranty is 3 yr/100,000km. However servicing is quite expensive (my 80,000km service was over $800 - possibly more on a Disco). If you can get
services for $230 that's a bargain.
The Td5 goes as
well as the Nissan, the Disco is a Land Rover, and therefore more capable off-road, but the Nissan would probably cost less in the long run.
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Follow Up By: Gordon - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 13:29
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 13:29
Hi Baldrick,
Delude yourself if you like, but please leave me alone!
Gordon
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Follow Up By: Baldrick - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 14:38
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 14:38
I wasn't talking to you. ;)
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Reply By: toadskin - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 15:04
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 15:04
Justin, I bought my GUIII 3.0lt Patrol auto wagon back in March this year. I paid outright for it as I sold my previous vehicle privately. I paid $52,500 drive away with alloy bullbar, towbar, headlight protectors, IPF spots and mats. It wasn't a demo.
When I was haggling, I was of the mind that about $54,600 was as low as I would be able to get drive away and was really surprised as the price went down, down and further down. I haggled between WA, Qld and the local
Darwin dealer and ended up buying locally although WA would do the same price and deliver it to my door.
I have since heard of others doing even better than this.
Neil
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Reply By: Rosscoe - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 15:24
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 15:24
Dare I......dare I say it on this
forum! If you want comfort, enough power to overtake, the economy and pulling power of a diesel, technology and value for money you really should put the Mitsubishi 2004 NP DiD Pajero on your must consider list.
Yes, it does has independant
suspension and lacks the articulation of a live axle but if you say you are over the hard core stuff, the car like ride and road manners are really worth a look. Top of the line Exceed with leather trim dual aircon, MATT and all the goodies will set back a tad over K$60. 3 year warranty and free road side assist is pretty normal. 5 years if you are prepared to have your car serviced by the selling dealer. At 343 Nm of torque at 2000 rpm and a lighter unit than either the Patrol or the Land Cruiser it provides a power to weight ratio that matches the more popular market leaders.
And despite what some people say it is still a very very capable off road vehicle.
Dam it - get off your soap box!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Rosscoe - Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 16:43
Monday, Jul 12, 2004 at 16:43
Correction .... Mitsubishi NP Pajero - 4 cyl 3.2 L Turbcharged Direct Injection Diesel delivers 373 Nm @ 2000 rpm and 121 kW of power @ 3800 rpm.
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