GQ patrol clutch.
Submitted: Wednesday, Jul 05, 2023 at 22:47
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Kirk L
Hi guys. Trying to pull gearbox out to
check clutch. Can't be done. Have to pull engine. Have gearbox hanging out. Anyone know if I can just move engine a bit forward or lower to get box out without fouling on firewall
Have never done a clutch before and had to pull engine.
Reply By: Member - McLaren3030 - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:45
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:45
Hi Kirk,
I am sure there might be someone on here that will be able to help, but I am pretty sure there is also a Nissan Patrol
forum that you might want to
check out as
well. Between the two groups, you should get your answer. Good luck with it.
Macca.
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Reply By: Mikee5 - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:50
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:50
Might not be relevant but when I did my VL (Nissan engine) You must rotate the gearbox 180 before pulling it backwards. I found that out in the workshop book. These days YouTube might help.
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:54
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:54
I actually read the manual after all else failed and it says to remove engine before gearbox. I was just sort of wondering if engine has to be completely removed or I could just move forward enough to get away with it. I have just rebuilt motor and something happened to clutch when refitting I think.
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Reply By: Member - Bigfish - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:53
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 06:53
Here is a link
clutch repair
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Reply By: Member - mechpete - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 09:03
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 09:03
I had a clutch put in my GQ an u can pull the box out without movin the engine .3 hrs
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:30
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:30
I tried every way I could to get it out and it just seems the firewall is in the way.
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Follow Up By: Nomadic Navara - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:56
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:56
I remember way back when we needed to remove the gearbox from an Austin A70. We found you needed to disconnect the exhaust at the manifold to allow the motor to
rock back to lower the gearbox to clear the firewall. Is there something that you can remove from the motor and allow the gearbox to clear the firewall?
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 12:04
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 12:04
The engine is tipped back as far as it will go. Ie rocker cover against firewall.
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Reply By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:52
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 11:52
I probably should have been clearer that is is the Td42 with the 50 gearbox. It appears it's a different method. Thanks for replies.
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Reply By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 13:13
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 13:13
I have just spoken to a guy that has done one and he says you roll the gearbox over and they will come out so when I recover I'll have another go. Thanks for your help.
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Follow Up By: Member - mechpete - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 13:43
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 13:43
Like i said you can get it out ur obviously not very experienced in mechanics
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 14:32
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 14:32
But like I said the 3 litre engine is a whole different ball game. If you got it done in 3 hours you are pretty good. I'm on the floor too so much harder than on a house with a transmission jack. I'm a mechanical fitter by trade so not as hopeless as you make out. Is your car a 3 litre?
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Reply By: Member - Warren H - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 14:13
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 14:13
Not sure if you can do it on a GQ, but on a 2A LR with a fixed cross member, the trick was to support the gearbox and slide it back just enough to get access to the clutch assembly. The clutch could be refitted using a piece of broom handle as a dolly to align the clutch assembly.
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 14:28
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 14:28
Yeah done that trick too. Done you have to slide back then drop the front first but never had to pull and engine to do it. As I said somewhere I'll get my motivation back and have another go removing transfer box first then turning gearbo??
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Saturday, Jul 08, 2023 at 09:19
Saturday, Jul 08, 2023 at 09:19
The gearbox was supported by a windlass attached to a piece of water pipe between the front flip up vents and the rear sliding window. The standard LR method was to remove the transmission tunnel, floor and
seat bases and lift the gearbox out through the cab. Series 3 and later 2As had the cross member bolted on and so removable.
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Saturday, Jul 08, 2023 at 11:13
Saturday, Jul 08, 2023 at 11:13
Is that the old land rovers? I remember someone doing that.
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Follow Up By: Member - Warren H - Saturday, Jul 08, 2023 at 15:02
Saturday, Jul 08, 2023 at 15:02
Yes Series 2A and series 3, somewhere during the 2A run they made the cross member removable, maybe when the change to the Salisbury diff was made.
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Reply By: Andrew L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 15:03
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 15:03
rotate gearbox i have heard elsewhere. dont know if it is 90 or 180, its just to get the tangs of the bell out from behind the firewall.
othr options, undo body mounts and lift front
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Follow Up By: Member - nickb boab - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 19:47
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 19:47
Or what about removing engine mount ??
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 19:56
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 19:56
Yes that will be my next option or leg it doesn't come out by rotation.
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Follow Up By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 21:06
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 21:06
It can be removed without removing motor. It is rotated transfer shaft side down from memory...but has to be levered back to clear alignmemt lugs/pins first. Back crossmember removed completely...altho some blokes use it to pull box backwards first. engine mounts unbolted to allow a bit of flexibility...along with exhaust....and starter. A trans jack works best ...but if not on hoist then a sturdy beam under rounded part of box with jack on either side works too. I have not actually done one ....but watched from a distance as a cuppla beefy blokes did it. Oh.....n did I say they are BLOODY heavy ??
Cheers Keith
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Follow Up By: Kirk L - Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 21:19
Thursday, Jul 06, 2023 at 21:19
Thanks Keith. Good explanation. I have a plan now. Remove transfer box to get rid of some extra weight and make it balance better. Then rotate and pull. If still tight I might unbolt engine mounts and move engine forward a bit. ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Keith P (NSW) - Friday, Jul 07, 2023 at 21:14
Friday, Jul 07, 2023 at 21:14
Thats probably a good idea to remove transfer....and then the seal(s) between box and transfer can be replaced ...leaking or not.
Cheers Keith
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